Do Hmong have a God? If so, what's their creation story?

[yaweh]

people,

mong do have a creation story...and it did not begin with nkauj iab nraug oo.  the mong creation story beings with "lub ntuj tsaus nciab li qab yiag txhiab...lub teb tsaus nti li qab yiag ci..."  similar to the genesis creation story.

it goes from yawmsaub sending the toad to earth to create the 9 moons and 9 sons...and then sending lajsab and sabsua to come and prepare the land..it also involves animals...and then nkauj iab nraug oo....leading to the 1st great flood.....to sivyig to dab..etc..

and then, the whole story begins again with the survior...lead ing up to the 2nd flood during chiyou's time leaving nkauj muab nraug nus...

too long a story to write it in here....but, there are three entities, yawm saub (gives life), yawm nyoog (source of death) and sivyig (the savior)...each has their own purpose...ther e is no good/bad...its jsut the cycle of life.

yaweh

[DonJuan]

I don't know much about Hmong legends regarding this topic, but shamanism does not support the idea of God.

[yaweh]

don,

per belief, shaminism doens't support the idea of god--yes and no.  the reason why most people feel that shaminism doens't support god is that per mong, the idea of "laig/teev hawm" and "worship" are two different concepts.  mong believes that every spiritual entities are respectable equality, and you should "honor" them.  however, as for "laig," then we are only required to laig "niam/txiv thiab ncej dab ncej qhua" xwb.  but, we could still "laig" the rest of the outside spirits...ther e is no rule to say we have to or we cannot.

however, in terms of god, there is  a supreme god who is consider the "giver" of life for the life cycle to complete---yawm saub.  now, if we were to compare this yawmsaub to "god" of the bible, theye are totally different from one another in their purpose and nature.  if you look at mong from the perspective of a chistian, then mong doens't have a god....but if you look at mong from the perspective of a mong, then mong "hawm/teev/laig' many entities...but there is only one supreme giver of life....so i na way, mong do have a god.

keep in mind that sivyig is not consider a god, but only a healer....not a god.  plus, no one is teev/laig/worship siv yig except tus "txiv neeb"....

yaweh

[DonJuan]

I agree. The idea of God is too easily linked back to Christianity, that's why I stated as no God. Being a shaman and reader myself, I will attest that something is out there. It is unimaginable, undescribable, awesome. To derive frm the general concept of God, I call it: the source.

[DonJuan]

So it seems but it actually is untrue. Shamanism is a practice to see and conserve energy. Shamans a long time ago were able to see they were no god because they would go outside the realm of men.
Be aware when you say "primitive". From the point of god and the spirit, modern men are more primitive than they were.  But yes, they were primitive in not knowing how the physical world around them functioned.

[A_New_Beginning]

When I have time I'll ask my father and recorded it. The true story is in qhuabke.

[NceegVaj]

Damn...all of your inputs.  The OP wants to know the origin.  There is an origin song where it goes to the very beginning.  It starts with "ntuj dub ntuj li cub..."  before the creation of the stars and galaxy.  The first human in Hmong record is the frog.

Well, in the west  it begins with "The word...and the word is himself..."

[A_New_Beginning]

If you really care to know, learn how to "Taw Kev" for the dead. 

[NceegVaj]

If you really care to know, learn how to "Taw Kev" for the dead.  

Taw kev?  There's no god there was there?  Koj mus txog pem kev tshuam no ce yog koj tus quas es lawv tus teb no ces no thiaj yog koj pog koj yawg.  Koj mus no ces ntuj los nag ces koj yuav nkaum qaib sab tis, koj tshaib nplab no ces koj noj koj qaib lub siab.  Koj mus txog no ces tus ntsej luaj lub txiv puam tob es thiaj yog koj pog koj yawg.......... .

I don't think anything here says who is god.  Actually, it points to a mystery.  More questions than answers.   Hmoob know there's a God Hmoob do not know who is god.  We just say it is a black hole.  Now some version of Taw Kev actually says...thaum koj mus txog no ces lub rooj vag saum toj koj txhob mus, lub nram qab koj txhob nkag, koj mus nkag lub nruab rooj nrab es thiaj yog koj pog koj yawg  (in morph, you know this is referring to the women's vagina).

Hope this helps.  Pls elaborate your thoughts.

[A_New_Beginning]

Taw kev?  There's no god there was there?  Koj mus txog pem kev tshuam no ce yog koj tus quas es lawv tus teb no ces no thiaj yog koj pog koj yawg.  Koj mus no ces ntuj los nag ces koj yuav nkaum qaib sab tis, koj tshaib nplab no ces koj noj koj qaib lub siab.  Koj mus txog no ces tus ntsej luaj lub txiv puam tob es thiaj yog koj pog koj yawg.......... .

I don't think anything here says who is god.  Actually, it points to a mystery.  More questions than answers.   Hmoob know there's a God Hmoob do not know who is god.  We just say it is a black hole.  Now some version of Taw Kev actually says...thaum koj mus txog no ces lub rooj vag saum toj koj txhob mus, lub nram qab koj txhob nkag, koj mus nkag lub nruab rooj nrab es thiaj yog koj pog koj yawg  (in morph, you know this is referring to the women's vagina).

Hope this helps.  Pls elaborate your thoughts.

Sorry for taking so long to get back here. 

Taw Kev does reveal an entity who created the universe and life.  After this, they it'll tell of life's story and leading the deceased to their ancestor... The original Taw Kev takes about 6 hours long and you must pay attention to it.