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Our roots our origination...
« on: April 16, 2010, 09:24:45 AM »
Okay... So, I've read and heard stories about our roots and where we originated from. Some say we originated from Mongol. some say we originated from Europe as we had blue eyes with blond hair. Some say we originated from China.

So, where did we really originate from? Thoughts and opinions anyone??



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Re: Our roots our origination...
« Reply #1 on: April 16, 2010, 12:27:05 PM »
When hmong people die.
Txiv qeej tshuab qeej send the dead person back or spirit back to where...
Txiv taw kev show and tell the dead person where to land
I think maybe that is where hmong came from



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« Reply #2 on: April 16, 2010, 01:50:05 PM »
My quick theory:

The Hmong/Miao were originally one people, and flourished under Chiyou (Txiv Yawg) in Eastern China.  After the fall of Chiyou, and the expansion of the Chinese, the Hmong/Miao were forced repeatedly to relocate.  Through time, some groups stayed, while others fled.  Isolation from one group to the other over the centuries lead to sub groupings of what was once one group of people.  Dialects, and culture change over time, as the various subgroups intermixed with other ethnic groups.

If you explore the world just a bit further to western China, there exists people with an asian face with caucasian characteristic s in their hair, eyes, and even skin.  It may be possible, that at one time, our ancestors and these people may have intermixed (given the "silk road" connected China to the west).

In my opinion, we share a common ancestor with the Miao in China more than we do with Mongols, Isrealis, etc.

The soft evidence is our similarities in:
Culture (All if not most, practice the same/similar funeral rituals (or so I've heard))
Clothing (It's all about the bling or showcasing your bling)
Lifestyle (Many use the same tools to cultivate, make clothing, prepare food, etc)
Musical Instruments (Qeej)
Language (From what I read, there are about 3 Miao dialects, Western, Central, Eastern)



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Re: Our roots our origination...
« Reply #3 on: April 16, 2010, 02:25:05 PM »
Okay... So, I've read and heard stories about our roots and where we originated from. Some say we originated from Mongol. some say we originated from Europe as we had blue eyes with blond hair. Some say we originated from China.

So, where did we really originate from? Thoughts and opinions anyone??

How about Africa?  The obvioius place.



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« Reply #4 on: April 16, 2010, 05:37:15 PM »
Hmongs are not caucasian.  Period.  We do not have blue eyes and blonde hair.  It is fact that we are pure asia.  If you refer to the western provinces of china then you must be refering to the turkhes chinese because they resemble both asian and middle east look alike.  The closest thing to white would be mongols and tibets because they lived at the border but not hmong people.  As you can see our roots have never come into contact with europeans until the invasion of the french and others.  Period.  I doubt we hmmong are of europe or middle east descendents because in our history we do not share nor our language share the same qoatations.   You can say "ni-hao" in chinese as many ways as you like or even say it in a different dialect and it will not sound hmong.  You can say "choni, roj bahsh" in kudish or ' shalom " in hebrew, but the fact is it is too far away to be considered part of come from these known groups.  We are hmong PERIOD.



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Re: Our roots our origination...
« Reply #5 on: April 16, 2010, 06:11:13 PM »
china is the further we've gone to know our history but don't know the exact place..



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« Reply #6 on: April 17, 2010, 03:24:21 PM »
I don't think no one really knows where we originated from. I'm sure all the people who knew are long gone. It sucks because we should really start making a history book so future generations can refer back to it when they have questions.



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« Reply #7 on: April 22, 2010, 04:11:00 PM »
Hmongs are not caucasian.  Period.  We do not have blue eyes and blonde hair.  It is fact that we are pure asia.  If you refer to the western provinces of china then you must be refering to the turkhes chinese because they resemble both asian and middle east look alike.  The closest thing to white would be mongols and tibets because they lived at the border but not hmong people.  As you can see our roots have never come into contact with europeans until the invasion of the french and others.  Period.  I doubt we hmmong are of europe or middle east descendents because in our history we do not share nor our language share the same qoatations.   You can say "ni-hao" in chinese as many ways as you like or even say it in a different dialect and it will not sound hmong.  You can say "choni, roj bahsh" in kudish or ' shalom " in hebrew, but the fact is it is too far away to be considered part of come from these known groups.  We are hmong PERIOD.

Interesting as my uncle has natural Blonde Hair... your statement that hmong people dont' have blonde hair and blue eyes are false..

Have you seen the photo of the hmong kid with one blue eye and one brown eye?




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Re: Our roots our origination...
« Reply #8 on: May 06, 2010, 02:51:21 PM »
Okay... So, I've read and heard stories about our roots and where we originated from. Some say we originated from Mongol. some say we originated from Europe as we had blue eyes with blond hair. Some say we originated from China.

So, where did we really originate from? Thoughts and opinions anyone??

africa, we're all from Africa  O0



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Re: Our roots our origination...
« Reply #9 on: May 14, 2010, 08:36:11 PM »
Wow.. haven't checked this for awhile.  ;D



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Re: Our roots our origination...
« Reply #10 on: May 14, 2010, 08:37:11 PM »
africa, we're all from Africa  O0

 ???We are?? Okay, I need detailed evidence, Mr. Complicated.



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Re: Our roots our origination...
« Reply #11 on: May 18, 2010, 04:53:31 PM »
Hmongs are not caucasian.  Period.  We do not have blue eyes and blonde hair.  It is fact that we are pure asia.  If you refer to the western provinces of china then you must be refering to the turkhes chinese because they resemble both asian and middle east look alike.  The closest thing to white would be mongols and tibets because they lived at the border but not hmong people.  As you can see our roots have never come into contact with europeans until the invasion of the french and others.  Period.  I doubt we hmmong are of europe or middle east descendents because in our history we do not share nor our language share the same qoatations.   You can say "ni-hao" in chinese as many ways as you like or even say it in a different dialect and it will not sound hmong.  You can say "choni, roj bahsh" in kudish or ' shalom " in hebrew, but the fact is it is too far away to be considered part of come from these known groups.  We are hmong PERIOD.

i would have to agree.

my only guess as to why some Hmong people have traits of blond hair and blue eyes is because of the French and Russian ancestry. Hmong women could have been raped by those bastards and to cover up the shame, families would make up this myth that Hmong people migrated from the west.






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