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Ok, here's my version of Hmong history..
« on: May 15, 2010, 12:18:38 AM »
Before China, I think Hmong come from the Middle East. They may have been one of the lost tribes of Isarael. Below are several similarity between the two cultures.

Genesis 2:22 - a wife is a man's rib. All Hmong believe this.

Leviticus 12:2-5 - After a woman gave birth, she has to stay inside the house for 30 days.

Exodus 20:10 - Obey the sabbath day. Hmong in Laos, Thailand, and Vietnam still practice this. On the sabbath day, they don't do anything at all or go anywhere.

Numbers 5:27 - drink cursed water. Hmong now days still practice this. When they don't know who's at fault, they let the two drink cursed water.

Exodus 29:31-34 - When an animal is sacrificed, the family has to eat all the meat on that night. Do not save any for the next day. The left over meat has to be thrown away. Only Hmong Laos practice this.

Leviticus 7:22 - When they do a ritual, the family has to give the thigh of the animal to the priest, or now days, give it to the shaman.

Genesis 28:1 - A father has to bless his son when he's old or before he die.

Ezekiel 6 - God cursed the House of Israel so that they will scattered throughout the world, live high in the mountain, become other's slave, a third will be killed by famine and swords. This sounds like the Hmong people.

Prophets = Saub - Hmong skysoldiers still practice prophetcies.

Baal practice - Teev Nyuj Dab; Hmong still practice Baal, the sun god. Even though God hated it so much that He punished them for over 2000 years, yet, they still worship Baal. The true definition of Baal practice is to protect their crops, lives stocks, and family from harms by doing a ritual to the sun begining of the year before the sun comes up. 

There are more similiarity then these but I just don't have time to look them up.



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Re: Ok, here's my version of Hmong history..
« Reply #1 on: May 18, 2010, 04:59:18 PM »
do you know that Missionaries have brain washed the Hmong people by spreading these 'words of wisdom' ?

my grandma even told me that missionaries came to her village and asked about our legends and myths and compared them to the bible saying that we are the children of God and that we have been separated from the lost people of the holy land. the words get skewed and the translation gets lost and BAAMM, Hmong people believe that we originated from the middle east.





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Re: Ok, here's my version of Hmong history..
« Reply #2 on: May 18, 2010, 08:38:00 PM »
I think we should call the History Channel to do a Destination Truth research on this. Some how I really believe that Hmong was part of the Israelites that were captivity into Iraq/Iran 400 year B.C. They then migrated from Iraq/Iran through Afghanistan into China between the year 300 B.C. to 100 A.D. According to our history at the funeral (Tus Qhuab Ke), he pointed the dead person back to the mother land by going through many rocky mountains, ice or snow place, dessert, and the dead sea. If you look at the wolrd map, you'll see that he pointed the dead person back to the Middle East or perhaps Egypt.



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Re: Ok, here's my version of Hmong history..
« Reply #3 on: May 18, 2010, 10:39:32 PM »
Before China, I think Hmong come from the Middle East. They may have been one of the lost tribes of Isarael. Below are several similarity between the two cultures.

Genesis 2:22 - a wife is a man's rib. All Hmong believe this.



fyi the original term is tus txij tus nkawm for ex when referring to couple we say nkawv as in nkawm or ib nkawm(meaning a pairs that complement one another or incomplete without the others) not tus tav or the rib it is also supported by the fact that we hmong culture is highly based on the principal of equal balance of yin and yang to maintain harmony, this is why it is nkawv when we referred to a couple of lover the latter one is influenced and successively replaced by the missionary when they came in contact with the hmong.



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Re: Ok, here's my version of Hmong history..
« Reply #4 on: May 18, 2010, 11:12:45 PM »
Kuv nrhiav tsis tau rab qeej tiamsis kuv nrhiav tau rab ncas (Jew's harp). Hmoob rab ncas yog los ntawm Jewish rab ncas called "jews harp". Plus I also found out that Hmong sing dirge (nyiav) at the funeral. The only people that sing dirge at funeral are Hmong and Jewish people.



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Re: Ok, here's my version of Hmong history..
« Reply #5 on: May 19, 2010, 12:13:34 AM »
Hmong lwm qab = jewish kapparot (Psalms 107:17-20)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kapparot   


Hmong noj ncuav tsis rau keeb = eating unleavend bread at passover (Leviticus 23:5)



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Re: Ok, here's my version of Hmong history..
« Reply #6 on: May 19, 2010, 08:47:32 AM »
Before China, I think Hmong come from the Middle East. They may have been one of the lost tribes of Isarael. Below are several similarity between the two cultures.

Genesis 2:22 - a wife is a man's rib. All Hmong believe this.

Leviticus 12:2-5 - After a woman gave birth, she has to stay inside the house for 30 days.

Exodus 20:10 - Obey the sabbath day. Hmong in Laos, Thailand, and Vietnam still practice this. On the sabbath day, they don't do anything at all or go anywhere.

Numbers 5:27 - drink cursed water. Hmong now days still practice this. When they don't know who's at fault, they let the two drink cursed water.

Exodus 29:31-34 - When an animal is sacrificed, the family has to eat all the meat on that night. Do not save any for the next day. The left over meat has to be thrown away. Only Hmong Laos practice this.

Leviticus 7:22 - When they do a ritual, the family has to give the thigh of the animal to the priest, or now days, give it to the shaman.

Genesis 28:1 - A father has to bless his son when he's old or before he die.

Ezekiel 6 - God cursed the House of Israel so that they will scattered throughout the world, live high in the mountain, become other's slave, a third will be killed by famine and swords. This sounds like the Hmong people.

Prophets = Saub - Hmong skysoldiers still practice prophetcies.

Baal practice - Teev Nyuj Dab; Hmong still practice Baal, the sun god. Even though God hated it so much that He punished them for over 2000 years, yet, they still worship Baal. The true definition of Baal practice is to protect their crops, lives stocks, and family from harms by doing a ritual to the sun begining of the year before the sun comes up.  

There are more similiarity then these but I just don't have time to look them up.

Those familiar with the bible know this.  But yet, when they see it being practiced by those who aren't "christianized", they slam them for worshiping the devil.



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Re: Ok, here's my version of Hmong history..
« Reply #7 on: May 19, 2010, 06:53:39 PM »
Lawv tsis siv los lus hais tias "peb teev saub" los yog "peb teev yawm saub".. instead they say "peb teev dab qhuas".. The word "Dab" mean evil. This is why Christianity refer to those kind of worships as evil.



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Re: Ok, here's my version of Hmong history..
« Reply #8 on: May 20, 2010, 10:32:15 PM »
I'm pretty sure prior to the txiv plig's influence, "Dab" was more of a general term for spirits, regardless if it was evil or good.



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Re: Ok, here's my version of Hmong history..
« Reply #9 on: May 27, 2010, 07:31:50 PM »
The Isrealits sacrificed animals and food to their God.  Hmong do the same thing. 

If a man rape a virgin, he is to marry her.  Hmong do the same thing.

A woman is a man's property.  Hmong believe the same thing.

OK, I'm convinced Hmong are the lost tribe. :)



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Re: Ok, here's my version of Hmong history..
« Reply #10 on: June 04, 2010, 03:14:00 PM »
It's hard for Hmong, including me too, to believe we were coming from because I did research about where did we, Hmong, came from a lot but there is no certain place or area where we really were.  The furthest place I saw where we were is only China, but I don't really believe...




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Re: Ok, here's my version of Hmong history..
« Reply #11 on: June 27, 2010, 12:33:43 PM »
We have over thousands of Moob PHD's around the world.  We have Mechanical, electrical engineers.  We have medical doctors.  We have business owners.  We have thousands of university students around the world.  What we don't have are anthropology students willing to go into this field to "un-earth" the history of our people.  Most of the researched papers found on the internet are papers written by non-Moob's (Mekas, Europeans, etc.).  Most of their research are based on Chinese "histories" written exclusively to denigrate (calling us Barbarians) the Moob people.  Are we going to write our own history or let someone else write our history for us ? 




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