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Inspector: Toyota driver was braking
Wreckage analysis hints at mechanical failure in fatal St. Paul accident
By Emily Gurnon
egurnon@pioneerpress.com
Updated: 05/12/2010 10:54:32 PM CDT





Koua Fong Lee is in prison for the 2006 crash of his 1996 Camry.
A mechanic hired by attorneys for Koua Fong Lee has confirmed that Lee was stepping on the brake before his Toyota Camry crashed in a fatal 2006 St. Paul accident for which he is serving eight years in prison.

"Brake light filament analysis indicates that the left bulb brake filament had been illuminated prior to impact," engineer Richard Dusek of Dusek Network Inc. of Orchard Lake, Mich., said in his 19-page report, obtained by the Pioneer Press on Wednesday.

Dusek's report also said the accelerator throttle system parts in the Camry did not move freely, stayed stuck and did not return to an idle position.

"This could have held the throttle open after the accelerator pedal was released for a braking maneuver," Dusek wrote.

And the cruise-control mechanisms also were not moving freely, which could also have "contributed to the failure of the driver's release of the accelerator pedal to affect engine and vehicle speed," he wrote.

Brent Schafer, Lee's defense attorney, said the inspection did not point to one clear cause of the accident but that the car still may yield further evidence of failure.

"Given the limitations of the actual inspection, we were not allowed to look into the electrical system of the vehicle, which we believe is going to be where the actual fault is," Schafer said.

Schafer said the carmaker did not want inspectors to perform certain actions that would have destroyed components of the car or would have made further examination

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The report's findings about the brake light concurred with a statement from a previous expert.

Lee, 32, was driving home from church June 10, 2006, when he took the Snelling Avenue exit from eastbound Interstate 94 and headed up the ramp toward the stoplight.

His family was in the car with him, and he had not been drinking or using drugs.

He later said nothing happened when he braked. His car raced to the intersection, struck two vehicles at speeds of up to 90 mph, then hit an Oldsmobile Ciera. A man and child were killed; a second child died later.

The prosecutor and Lee's former attorney said at his trial that he must have accidentally stepped on the accelerator rather than the brakes, despite his testimony to the contrary.

Lee was convicted of criminal vehicular homicide after a jury determined he was grossly negligent.

The question of whether the car might have malfunctioned — even though it was not among those recalled by Toyota for sudden acceleration — has led to a demand by Lee's attorney for a new trial and a threatened lawsuit by the victims' family against the car company.

Toyota Motor Corp. declined to comment Wednesday.

The Ramsey County attorney's office said Wednesday that it would file a response with the court after it received written reports by the experts from both the prosecution and defense.

"To date, we have not received those reports, including the defense report provided to the press," the county attorney's office said.

County attorney spokesman Paul Gustafson noted the finding about the brake lights also was contained in an Oct. 24, 2006, letter from Lee's civil attorney to an attorney for Lee's insurance agency.

"So that's been out there for a long time," he said.

The letter, written a year before Lee's trial, was long buried in the files of Lee's trial attorney and surfaced last month.

Gustafson also said the county attorney had not received reports from two experts it hired to look at the car. The joint inspection was done April 20 and 21.

Dusek ended his report by writing, "I am critical of some of the inspection and measuring methodology that the county's experts used, but further comments will be reserved for another day."

Schafer said Dusek's report would be filed today in Ramsey County District Court.

Another expert, who observed the inspection on behalf of the victim's family, said he was convinced from looking at the car and its body damage that Lee tried hard to avoid other vehicles.

"It was, in my mind, obvious that this guy was a hero, not a villain," said James Cook of Shoreview, a mechanic who has specialized in auto body frame suspension and alignment.

Emily Gurnon can be reached at 651-228-5522.


« Last Edit: May 25, 2010, 12:36:47 PM by Reporter »

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Re: Is this Koua Fong Lee even guilty at all? I don't think so.
« Reply #1 on: May 25, 2010, 09:19:36 PM »
It may take years to end  this case.  They reallydon't care about the case anymore. 



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Re: Is this Koua Fong Lee even guilty at all? I don't think so.
« Reply #2 on: May 26, 2010, 08:17:44 AM »
I hope he gets out soon and gets paid for it. :police:



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Re: Is this Koua Fong Lee even guilty at all? I don't think so.
« Reply #3 on: June 29, 2010, 08:15:18 PM »
UPDATE:


New probe challenges defense in Camry crash

Auto experts say convicted driver was stepping on gas
By Emily Gurnon
egurnon@pioneerpress.com
Updated: 06/28/2010 11:10:18 PM CDT






Two experts hired by the Ramsey County attorney's office to inspect a Toyota Camry involved in a triple fatality concluded there was no evidence the driver had experienced "sudden unintended acceleration."

"The best explanation for the event was that (the driver) was depressing the throttle as he approached the crash area," wrote Wade Bartlett, an engineering consultant based in Rochester, N.H., in a report obtained Monday by the Pioneer Press.

Automotive engineer Frank Sonye, a longtime investigator for General Motors, agreed with Bartlett, saying in his own report, "The brakes, when firmly applied, would have prevented the subject vehicle from accelerating to a speed of over 80 mph."

Those conclusions run counter to the claims of driver Koua Fong Lee.

Lee was returning home from church with his family the afternoon of June 10, 2006, when he crashed into the back of an Oldsmobile at Snelling and Concordia avenues in St. Paul, instantly killing a man and his 9-year-old son. Another child was left quadriplegic; she died the next year at age 7.

Lee, who had no alcohol or chemicals in his system, was convicted of criminal vehicular homicide and sentenced to eight years in prison.

Prosecutors — and his own attorney — said during his 2007 trial that Lee must have been pressing the gas instead of the brake as he approached the Snelling intersection from eastbound Interstate 94.

But Lee, now 32, testified that he was pumping desperately on the brake, but that it failed to stop the car.
In the wake of the massive recall of Toyotas for sudden acceleration problems, Lee's new defense attorney, Brent Schafer, petitioned the court in March, seeking a new trial.

The fact that Lee's 1996 Camry was not part of the recall does not mean it didn't experience sudden acceleration, Schafer has argued.

The prosecution has until Wednesday to file a response with the court.

Lee's supporters blasted the reports and their authors.

"To me, they just come off as hired guns," said Mike Padden, an attorney for victims of the crash, who support Lee's motion for a new trial. They have filed suit against Toyota. "It was as if they said, 'This was our argument at trial, it sure would be nice if you guys agree with that.' "

Neither the prosecution's experts nor an expert brought in by Toyota to observe the inspection dispute two other reports released previously that show Lee was, in fact, stepping on the brake, based on the condition of the brake lamp filaments.

But they appear careful to parse the issue.

"The damage sustained by the left brake lamp filament does not indicate how long before the impact the brakes had been applied... the brakes may have been applied very late in the scenario," Sonye wrote.

Or, he continued, "The deceleration forces resulting from the first collision (with the Oldsmobile) caused the brake pedal to move forward sufficiently to turn on the brake lights."

Bartlett agreed that the brake lamp circuit was "energized." But, he wrote, that "does not indicate whether the driver's foot was on the brake and pressing intentionally, or the pedal was actuated by some other means, such as movement resulting from the collision ... or inadvertent contact by the operator's leg."

"It's almost embarrassing," Schafer said Monday. "It's like these guys got together and said, 'How else can we explain this?' I almost fell out of my chair when I saw that."

Concurring with the prosecution consultants was a Texas-based expert, hired by Toyota's attorneys to witness the inspection conducted April 20-21 at the St. Paul police impound lot.

"There is no physical evidence to suggest that a problem existed with the vehicle prior to the crash that would have resulted in its pre-crash motion," James E. Walker Jr. of Carr Engineering Inc. of Houston wrote in his report.

Assistant Ramsey County Attorney Phil Carruthers, one of the prosecutors in Lee's trial, said Monday that Bartlett and Sonye were chosen because they were licensed professional engineers with outstanding credentials.

"We wanted highly qualified people who would examine the vehicle and provide objective, independent opinions on whether there were any defects in the vehicle," Carruthers said. "We weren't trying to hire someone with a particular point of view."

Both Sonye and Bartlett wrote that they also were asked by the county attorney to review the inspection report by Richard Dusek, who examined the Camry on behalf of Lee, and to comment on 23 affidavits submitted by the defense from people who had experienced similar acceleration events in Camrys or other vehicles.

Sonye commented at length on Dusek's report, pointing out what he said were inaccuracies and refuting his conclusions.

Of the affidavits from other drivers, "In general, anecdotal statements are not sufficient to establish a substantially similar event," Sonye wrote. "In these particular statements, some contain inaccuracies; some involve completely different vehicles; some are similar vehicles with different throttle systems, cruise control systems or engines; and in some, driver error cannot be ruled out."

Bartlett wrote, "I do not believe this sample (of 23) is meaningful, nor do these unsubstantiate d stories have any probative value with respect to the events that transpired in Mr. Lee's car just prior to the crash."

Defense attorney Schafer has since submitted 15 additional affidavits to the court.

Sonye worked for 37 years for General Motors, representing the company as director of product investigations before the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA), according to his online LinkedIn profile. He also has testified for the company in personal-injury lawsuits and has responded to governmental investigations of GM.

Carruthers noted that GM is a competitor of Toyota, which he said enhances Sonye's credibility with regard to the Lee case.

Carruthers said his office paid about $12,500 to Bartlett and $14,000 to Sonye, including expenses.

Bartlett is on record as skeptical of sudden acceleration reports, writing in a 2000 essay, "It is not uncommon for someone to claim that their vehicle experienced an 'unanticipated acceleration' or 'sudden acceleration' (S/A). Despite having looked at many cars thusly accused, I have yet to personally find support for such claims."

Bartlett said in March that he stands by those comments.

In his report dated May 5, defense expert Dusek of Orchard Lake, Mich., wrote that the accelerator throttle system parts in the Camry did not move freely, stayed stuck and did not return to an idle position.

The cruise-control mechanisms also were not moving freely, which could have "contributed to the failure of the driver's release of the accelerator pedal to affect engine and vehicle speed," Dusek wrote.

The prosecutor's experts largely disputed those conclusions or blamed the conditions on the nearly four years that the car had been exposed to the elements while it was stored at the impound lot.

Carruthers also pointed out that Dusek's inspection results may be shared with the plaintiffs in the civil cases against Toyota, according to Schafer.

Judge Joanne Smith will decide whether Lee will get a new trial.

Emily Gurnon can be reached at 651-228-5522.



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Re: Is this Koua Fong Lee even guilty at all? I don't think so.
« Reply #4 on: June 29, 2010, 08:31:06 PM »



Experts are stupid specialists. O0







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Re: Is this Koua Fong Lee even guilty at all? I don't think so.
« Reply #5 on: June 30, 2010, 01:14:49 AM »
If you know Koua Fong Lee's family, relatives or attorney please share my experience and I'll be more than happy to testify my story.

I have a '89 Toyota Cressida.  Just about a month ago I did some work on the engine to fix the oil leak from the two camshaft - replacing the seals.  I also changed the oil.  Afterward, I took it out for a test drive.  I drove out for about five blocks and came to a stop sign.  I made a right turn at the stop sign and at the following block I decided to make a left turn.  This was all on residential area so I was doing about 25mph.  I turned on my left signal and firmly applied on the brake to slow down to make the left turn.  I realized the brake did slow down the car's speed but I could see the rpm meter at nearly 3,000 and increasing.  Once I completed the left turn I kept my foot off both the brake and the gas and realized my car was acting weird, it continuously accelerating with the engine getting louder and louder.  Within the block, at the intersection, was also a stop sign.  I realized the car just accelerating without my foot on the gas padel.  It was doing about 30mph when I press hard on the brake to bring it to a stop.  My foot was still on the brake when it was in full stop but I could hear the engine getting louder and louder as the rpm went up above 3.  All of sudden, the rear tires spinned really fast with dirt flying, kinda like when those muscle cars burn the tires marking those marks on the road thing.  I got scared so I pull on the handbrake then turned off the ignition.  After a few second I restart the car again and slowly test drive it with caution.  It was running normally again.  To this day the car is running fine with no problems.   

With that sudden acceleration, I do not believe it's due to the gas padel like the newer cars that's facing the recall but instead it was caused by the faulty transmission.  I am not a mechinic expert but have been dirving for over 15 years and have been working on my own cars, brakes, engine, transmission, you name it,  for about 12 years so I believe I am knowledgeable enough about cars.  All the cars I've owned are Honda and Toyota.  In the case of Koua Fong Lee, I stand by the man's story and strongly urge that these investigators and experts ought to look into the transmission.

Thank you for your time reading my story and please pass this onto Koua Fong Lee's family or attorney.  I can see in the man's eyes that he's innocent.



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Re: Is this Koua Fong Lee even guilty at all? I don't think so.
« Reply #6 on: June 30, 2010, 08:33:00 AM »
there was an update on this case yesterday on the news. let me find the link....

http://kstp.com/news/stories/S1629752.shtml?cat=127

Fatal Crash Not Caused By Faulty Toyota, Experts Find
Two experts hired by the Ramsey County Attorney's Office to inspect the Toyota Camry involved in a crash that killed three people in 2006 say there was no mechanical error, according to reports disclosed Tuesday.

"The best explanation is the driver was depressing the throttle or stepping on the gas before the crash," wrote Wade Bartlett, an engineer from New Hampshire, in a report.

Frank C. Sonye, Jr., an engineer from the Detroit area wrote: "If the brakes were firmly applied, that would have prevented the crash."

The driver of the vehicle, Koua Fong Lee, was hoping to be set free this summer after living in the Lino Lake Correctional Facility for the past two and a half years.

Lee was driving his family home from church on June 10, 2006 when Lee said he pressed the brakes of his 1996 Toyota Camry and the car kept going, killing three people.

Lee's attorney, Brent Schafer, wants a new trial claiming sudden, unexplained acceleration caused the crash.

In May, an expert hired by Lee's defense inspected the Camry and determined the brake lights illuminated prior to impact. The inspection concluded that the throttle was stuck open, a possible cause for Lee's inability to stop.

Lee's vehicle was not part of the recent Toyota recalls.

Ramsey County Judge Joanne M. Smith will decide if Lee gets a new trial.

 




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Re: Is this Koua Fong Lee even guilty at all? I don't think so.
« Reply #7 on: June 30, 2010, 12:24:49 PM »
there was an update on this case yesterday on the news. let me find the link....

http://kstp.com/news/stories/S1629752.shtml?cat=127

Fatal Crash Not Caused By Faulty Toyota, Experts Find
Two experts hired by the Ramsey County Attorney's Office to inspect the Toyota Camry involved in a crash that killed three people in 2006 say there was no mechanical error, according to reports disclosed Tuesday.

"The best explanation is the driver was depressing the throttle or stepping on the gas before the crash," wrote Wade Bartlett, an engineer from New Hampshire, in a report.

Frank C. Sonye, Jr., an engineer from the Detroit area wrote: "If the brakes were firmly applied, that would have prevented the crash."

The driver of the vehicle, Koua Fong Lee, was hoping to be set free this summer after living in the Lino Lake Correctional Facility for the past two and a half years.

Lee was driving his family home from church on June 10, 2006 when Lee said he pressed the brakes of his 1996 Toyota Camry and the car kept going, killing three people.

Lee's attorney, Brent Schafer, wants a new trial claiming sudden, unexplained acceleration caused the crash.

In May, an expert hired by Lee's defense inspected the Camry and determined the brake lights illuminated prior to impact. The inspection concluded that the throttle was stuck open, a possible cause for Lee's inability to stop.

Lee's vehicle was not part of the recent Toyota recalls.

Ramsey County Judge Joanne M. Smith will decide if Lee gets a new trial.

 




that is a bunch of bullshiet! thats what happens when dist. attny wins a case that is not accurate to its full potential and not want to a new trial. i hope he gets a new trial, but from the looks of it i doubt he will. we live in a white man society powered by greed.. that judge wont give him a new trial. she'll look at the case and say do we really want tax payers to pay for this trial, when we already found him guilty?



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