1 dead at Fresno Water Festival

[Boost]

Whats a Water Festival ?

[thePoster]

You know people knows who did it!  Ain't no one speaking on it that's all

[IB TIAM NEEJ]

That kid's parent = fail!  How are you going to blame the org that's holding the event when your kid was in a gang.  He was bound for death because that's the road he took.  If you would've raised your kid better he wouldn't have been in a gang, then the day he went to water festival he wouldn't have died because he wouldn't have been involved in a gang.  Some pple, I tell you!  I don't take care of my kid but I'm going to blame you for his death!   

Some (most) parents do all they can but their kids rebel.

[sacleads]

I grew up in that lifestyle and many others I knew did as well.  We all knew the risk of living that lifestyle.  We have no one to blame but ourselves..... Live by the gun, Die by the gun.  The dead guy have no one to blame for his outcome but himself.  Hard to blame on the parents because they are soo out of touch with this society.  I'm sure parents just don't go around saying...."when my son grows up, I hope he's a gangster".  With that said, PARENTS are still the biggest INFLUENCE. 

Anyways, a lesson I learn a long time ago...if you want to live....avoid large gatherings like this and the New Year and You'll live another day.  

[F-16]

Sue Lao Family.  They are a corrupted group for GVP.

[BoredatWork]

What i'm trying to say is why blame the org if you knew if your son was doomed.  I think they are just looking for a payday.  If the dude would've gotten beaten on the street, are they going to blame the cops also?  Regardless the dude lived the hard fast lifestyle.  This was bound to happen regardless of this event or another, the parents should understand that instead of blaming someone else. 

[TijLaugHmoob]

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[suabqeej]

 the key here is that there wasn't enough securities..th e reason why? the event organisers didn't want to pay for more securities eventhough they knew full well shht like this can happen and will happen when there isnt enough securities, hell they didnt even close it down when this incident happened...or cancel the whole event even when the police recommended them to.

this is clearly a case of greed..they only care about how much they will profit...if they really care about their own people, they would either first, hire more than enough securities, or second, dont hold anymore of these events...or basically keep anyone who looks like trouble out of the event..people who likes to attend these events need to find other means of having a good time...otherwi se they're just contributing to more hmong on hmong violence and deaths and thus, risking their own safety. it just dont make any kind of sense. that's why i aint never stepping foot into a hmong event.

the family has every right to point their middle finger at the event organizers. hahah they have insurance right? so that insurance should go to the family if this young man..

you got to be real, half the time if not most of the time, these people who gets jump are not even a gangmember..re al gang members know better not to attend these events unless they are 10-20 deep.sure they might look like one...but these days, which yung Hmong man doesn't dress hip hoppish and think they are p-diddyddiy or snoop dog. besides that,t the nest  when gangmembers attend these things,  they are going to find someone to beat up no materr what. if they dont see any of their rivals, which is usally the case, they target whoever tthey want..whether it be the guy who is with ahot girl, the guy who has a earing on, the guy who walks like he's the shht, the guy who just happen to glance at them and thought they are maddawg...or the guy who just acts too gay...

hmong people should stop supporting these people, and these people need to stop holding these events if they cant even provide enough security.

phoojywg,

you do have a point; however, you didn't do your fact finding prior to macking on the event coordinators. I'm sure they had meetings and the topic of providing enough securities to prevent such potential violent. Yet, you need to understand that the incident didn't take place in the event itself. It happened at the parking lot.

terminating the event would not be a good idea, not for these wanna be gangbangers. it's gonna go on. besides, it's an annual events.

this is to you, kreepkrawler: why do these wanna gangbangers wait until such events to kill each other? why do they have to come to these events and acted violently; hurting or killing each other? why can't they do it eslewhere, beside these events?

[missmiss]

the important issue here is there wasnt enough securities patrolling for an even quote from the flyer " thousands" were going to attend?   read the article it tells how poor security was....even the chief police admitted that they did a poor job! Shame on the people who controls this event!!!  if it was their kid....of course it wuld be a diff story?? u already know how hmong ppl are?  of course theres gona be something bad happening..... .he was only a kid who chose the wrong path.....he still had so much ahead of him....i knew him he was a good kid...even tho he made the wrong choice....he was a hard worker too!!!!!!

[missmiss]

he's just a kid......he had so much ahead of him......he left behind his family who loved him so much....
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[Zongta]

Asians make up probably less than 1% of the prison population. That's why they have to stick together in prison to survive. It's so stupid how you and me are going to kill each other but then if we do end up in the slammer we are going to be buddy buddy, especially when you were the reason I am in here. STUPID! Why don't you just be buddy buddy on the outside and be free.

Hopefully one day people will get brains and actually realize there is so much more to do with your life.

Dude you need to do some more research on the data your receiving. If not you're being as irresponsible as a reporter who doesn't check up on his sources. Maybe that stat is correct for the entire U.S, but apparently you haven't been to a Minnesota prison which consisted of 30-40% asian population in 2000 which may have risen or declined somewhat and frankly...they run the place. Don't believe me ask anyone who's done real time.

And rivals on the outside used to band together in the early 90's but with the huge hmong population in prison that's no longer the case.

[skribblez]

the problem with this is not that security was of a lacking but majority of the security are unproperly trained for any situations of this sort...
i've been the security field and some if not to the extent of training i had to endure was much of going thru police academy..
in any situation even if there was security at the scene, what extent are they going to do?... u can have a million security guard there and if they're not properly trained they wouldn't be able to access the situation and react....besid es the majority of the security they probably did have there were either old farts passing a day job or some kid given a badge....
in alot of situations, guards are trained not to do anything anyhow even if they wanted to step in...liability of all......