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Hmong culture, tradition and rituals really slow us down.
« on: August 03, 2010, 08:31:42 PM »
When will Hmong have a professional sports man? When will Hmong have an astronaut? When will Hmong own a big corporation? When will Hmong become a CEO for a big corporation? When will Hmong be able to build airplane? When will Hmong have a country? I think they concentrate too much on culture, tradition and rituals and not enough of education and politics.



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Re: Hmong culture, tradition and rituals really slow us down.
« Reply #1 on: August 03, 2010, 09:14:18 PM »
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Re: Hmong culture, tradition and rituals really slow us down.
« Reply #2 on: August 03, 2010, 11:19:39 PM »
Too much rituals:  We can not change anything because "phiv dab qhuas." This will allow us to not try something new.

Too much traditions:  We encourage our kids to get marry at a young age or force them to get marry if get caught. This will slow down their education and career potential.

Too much cultures:  We eat too much and aspect the whole relative to stop what they are doing and join the feast. Almost every weekend. This will cut our lives short due to high blood sugar, high blood pressure, and lack of exercise because we use our leisure time to eat instead of exercise.

Therefore, we shoot ourself in the toe in term of success in high places.




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Re: Hmong culture, tradition and rituals really slow us down.
« Reply #3 on: August 04, 2010, 01:28:58 AM »
I happen to agree with Jbuton.  So much angst in your post.

To answer your questions...wh en we stop being greedy and crabs.  Someday when I have more time I'll share with all of us on PH what greediness did to the Hmong.


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Re: Hmong culture, tradition and rituals really slow us down.
« Reply #4 on: August 04, 2010, 02:07:25 PM »
We learned from history that a nation or tribe that practice too much rituals are far behind in technology and politics.



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« Reply #5 on: August 04, 2010, 11:22:57 PM »
Too much rituals:  We can not change anything because "phiv dab qhuas." This will allow us to not try something new.

Too much traditions:  We encourage our kids to get marry at a young age or force them to get marry if get caught. This will slow down their education and career potential.

Too much cultures:  We eat too much and aspect the whole relative to stop what they are doing and join the feast. Almost every weekend. This will cut our lives short due to high blood sugar, high blood pressure, and lack of exercise because we use our leisure time to eat instead of exercise.

Therefore, we shoot ourself in the toe in term of success in high places.

Without our family and other loved ones behind us, we can strive to the very top and still consider ourselves unsuccessful beings. Keep that in mind.



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Re: Hmong culture, tradition and rituals really slow us down.
« Reply #6 on: August 05, 2010, 08:35:00 AM »
When will Hmong have a professional sports man? When will Hmong have an astronaut? When will Hmong own a big corporation? When will Hmong become a CEO for a big corporation? When will Hmong be able to build airplane? When will Hmong have a country? I think they concentrate too much on culture, tradition and rituals and not enough of education and politics.

You need help.  YOu are lacking life experiences and haste in your thoughts.  Just keep learning your Hmong language, culture, family values, and keep your integrity strong.  That is all you have to do, my friend, and you are set for life.

Why worry about this and that?  Do you really, really want to be the king? You wouldn't be a true person if you are.



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Re: Hmong culture, tradition and rituals really slow us down.
« Reply #7 on: August 05, 2010, 11:52:18 AM »
When will Hmong have a professional sports man? When will Hmong have an astronaut? When will Hmong own a big corporation? When will Hmong become a CEO for a big corporation? When will Hmong be able to build airplane? When will Hmong have a country? I think they concentrate too much on culture, tradition and rituals and not enough of education and politics.

you're the only one in limbo and not progressing buddy. rituals and traditions still leave me plenty of room to grow. take bruce lee's quote literally "be like wa-ter".



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Re: Hmong culture, tradition and rituals really slow us down.
« Reply #8 on: August 05, 2010, 11:17:18 PM »
Have a hoagie...not rice.



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« Reply #9 on: August 05, 2010, 11:41:57 PM »
Hmoob muab kev dab qhuas thiab kev noj kev haus ua loj dhua lawm. Every Hmong community I went to has to have a feast on the weekend. Why must Hmong do ritual every weekend and eat fatty foods every weekend? This is one reason why so many Hmong elders have gault, high blood pressure, and high blood sugar. Alot of them have died due of strokes due to eating too much.



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« Reply #10 on: August 06, 2010, 07:35:55 AM »
Hmoob muab kev dab qhuas thiab kev noj kev haus ua loj dhua lawm. Every Hmong community I went to has to have a feast on the weekend. Why must Hmong do ritual every weekend and eat fatty foods every weekend? This is one reason why so many Hmong elders have gault, high blood pressure, and high blood sugar. Alot of them have died due of strokes due to eating too much.

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« Reply #11 on: August 09, 2010, 09:50:40 AM »
I don't believe culture and tradition is the primary cause of peb hmoob slowing down or falling behind. Yet, it is the lack of support and encouragement of one another. Instead of encouragement and support, when one is climbing up the ladder to the top the rest wants to shoot him down.

We can adapt to new things and new surroundings, yet isn't tradition and culture a part of being hmong. Is it not a source of our identity? If so, we can never change that nor can we change the color of our skin. If a person feels there is a need for change and you want to see a person be a professional sports man or someone on top to represent peb hmoob, etc.. then by all means, why not be that person representing instead of waiting for others to do it. Just my personal opinion, no disrespect.


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Re: Hmong culture, tradition and rituals really slow us down.
« Reply #12 on: August 09, 2010, 02:46:57 PM »
When will Hmong have a professional sports man? When will Hmong have an astronaut? When will Hmong own a big corporation? When will Hmong become a CEO for a big corporation? When will Hmong be able to build airplane? When will Hmong have a country? I think they concentrate too much on culture, tradition and rituals and not enough of education and politics.
lol dude has nothing to do with culture, tradition  or rituals..look the whole world before narrowing it down to just one group..the whole world has culture, tradition and ritual they had a professional sport, they got astronaut , they have big corporation and Ceo for big corp..
you want to know the BIG secret???/


MONEY!
is the first thing to start the hmong movement..to be better to go to the next level..you're smart and talented but you're from a lower class low income family how are you going to make it? financial aid grants and scholarships are not enough.and yes there is school loans but can you afford it?...understand we "hmong" are not rich..we're refugees..got no place call home..everybod y is doing their best on their careers nobody wants to live in poverty in the ghetto apartments..ev erybody wants to get out..money again opens the door for you 99.9% of the time..



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Re: Hmong culture, tradition and rituals really slow us down.
« Reply #13 on: August 09, 2010, 03:04:14 PM »
I think to bring someone down is Hmong's culture. Hmong believe that when someone is higher than you, you don't support him but you compete with him. And when you can't compete with him, you bring him down.

I even heard Hmong talked about how a family won't teach anybody else their success. It dies in the family. So when the family die, the secret die with them. I believe this is Hmong culture and beliefs.



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Re: Hmong culture, tradition and rituals really slow us down.
« Reply #14 on: August 09, 2010, 03:16:45 PM »
I think to bring someone down is Hmong's culture. Hmong believe that when someone is higher than you, you don't support him but you compete with him. And when you can't compete with him, you bring him down.

I even heard Hmong talked about how a family won't teach anybody else their success. It dies in the family. So when the family die, the secret die with them. I believe this is Hmong culture and beliefs.
that's only some not all..hmong tend to pass it down to whoever is willing to learn it..though they don't go walking around tell people oh learn this to be successful..it's free..no free ride..u gotta know that..nothing is for free..gotta give something to gain something..



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