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Fresno Hmong International New Year drama
« on: August 07, 2010, 09:14:53 AM »
Anyone heard?  I've heard from the elders that two groups are fighting each other for the event this year.  The origional Hmong Internation New Year and 18 clans are at odds when comes to this new year.



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Re: Fresno Hmong International New Year drama
« Reply #1 on: August 07, 2010, 01:46:15 PM »
I agree whole heartly they made money from the event otherwise they won't fight like dogs.



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Re: Fresno Hmong International New Year drama
« Reply #2 on: August 07, 2010, 03:58:16 PM »
It's funny how if you check their Return Tax, most of these LFC claimed (-) profit on the New Years. 



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Re: Fresno Hmong International New Year drama
« Reply #3 on: August 07, 2010, 05:04:30 PM »
Where's gappie? He should have some inside scoop into this.  I only hear from second hand sources, which I cannot substantiate. 



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Re: Fresno Hmong International New Year drama
« Reply #4 on: August 07, 2010, 06:33:31 PM »
I want to sell liquor @ the new year. Look for the booth with the vomitting guy

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Re: Fresno Hmong International New Year drama
« Reply #5 on: August 07, 2010, 07:46:58 PM »
Liquor+fighting gangsters=me never ever attending ever ever again.



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Re: Fresno Hmong International New Year drama
« Reply #6 on: August 07, 2010, 09:00:09 PM »
Mag
Oh wells. More drinks for me

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Re: Fresno Hmong International New Year drama
« Reply #7 on: August 07, 2010, 09:05:31 PM »
Yes. More for you. Ill be home.. Dont feel like getting shot or stabbed. Lols..



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Re: Fresno Hmong International New Year drama
« Reply #8 on: August 07, 2010, 10:24:14 PM »
Hmm way a losr

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Re: Fresno Hmong International New Year drama
« Reply #9 on: August 07, 2010, 10:33:26 PM »
I raather be a loser than hang out at a place with gangsters fighting cause someone looked at them funny. Not my cup a tea.. Thanks.



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Re: Fresno Hmong International New Year drama
« Reply #10 on: August 07, 2010, 10:56:18 PM »
Where's gappie? He should have some inside scoop into this.  I only hear from second hand sources, which I cannot substantiate. 


well well well... now it's time to play the game....
this issue has finally found its way to the pebhmong forum.
I will just quickly pour my bias opinion on this. Please don’t mind my quick gibberish writing.
to start off, let me tell you where i stand. I stand firmly behind Hmong International New Year, Inc., (HINY) a 501(c)(3) non-profit organization.
To make a long story short, the 18 clan aka United Hmong International (UHI) of whom is another non-profit organization seeks to overthrow HINY and insert themselves into the board to run the new year festivities. Yet, the two organizations are separate entities with separate tax id's of which can never be intertwined as a whole. Over 10 years ago, HINY was founded because there was two new year in the city of Fresno which led to a huge debt in the hunredes of thousands of dollars. The organization at the time that caused the financial burden in the excess of a few hundred thousand dollars was that of the UHI and a radical group who wanted to make money by dealing their own new year celebration. The two organizations lost money and that is why HINY was founded as agreed by both parties who had interest in forming the new years in Fresno. All parities witnessed therof submitted control of running the Hmong new year celebrations to the newly formed Hmong International New Year, Inc. The sole purpose of HINY would be to strictly focus on the new year festivities in Fresno whereas UHI would soley focus on Hmong issues, traditions and customs for example solving family problems.
So almost twelve years later now, right after all debt has been paid off.. a few individuals insert themselves into UHI to rebel again and use the UHI name to run the new years in Fresno. Know that there are only a few individuals within the UHI and others that support this. UHI as a whole meaning all 18 clan representative s do not support the idea of a hostile take over of Hmong International New Year, Inc. And they have made it very clear. Some clan representative s have no idea what the hell these individuals (the self elected president) is doing or what the intentions are by trying to take over the new years much less creating a rival new year. So you think, how is UHI going to stake a claim, strategize a take over of another 501(c)(3) organization? What UHI has done so far is stage false accusations, rumors while striking down HINY.  Basically, UHI can do whatever they want and say whatever they want, but there is a fine line between freedom of speech and defamation. This is the fine line. For those who don’t know, there is a  Hmong new year council, which includes all new years in the state of California (12)  whom do not support the UHI on this claim nor does General Vang Pao and many other reputable organizations. UHI currently has a self elected individual of the Lee clan who compromised an election to become president of UHI. This is utterly wrong and will soon enough be brought to justice to say the least.
A side not for those who may not know, the president of UHI at the time is the person who got himself and 11 other people locked up including General Vang Pao. There are many things wrong within UHI, they need to get their act together.
Everyone talks the talk on how HINY profits from the new year etc… do you ever wonder when you go to the fair why they charge admission? Parking? What do they do with all the profit? When subsequently they own the fairgrounds property… HINY rents the fairgrounds for hundreds of thousands of dollars, charges half the admission the fair charges, gets no cuts on parking and still the Hmong people want to know where all the money goes. There will always be those who are pro and those who are con, yet whatever the case may be HINY will continue to put on a show for the Hmong people. If you are happy then come share and support. If not then don’t come it’s as simple as that.
All in all, I can certainly provide a history lesson on UHI and HINY for those who are interested but do not find that this is the place to do so. My aim is simply to provide a quick response as this issue was directed towards me. I do however welcome anyone who would like to know the truth. If you ever wonder about HINY’s finances then go to the office and ask. If you should ever have any questions go to the HINY office and ask. But do not sit at home and create rumors that will not get you anywhere nor make you any better.  And to clear things up, if you have issues about Lao Family please go visit them as they are not part of HINY nor do they run the new year event in Fresno. They are however, a proud supporter of HINY. Please feel free to message me for a sit down conversation if this is your cup of tea. In closing, HINY will continue to put on a great showcase as the largest Hmong celebration in this nation come December. What UHI has in mind, I do not know nor care for that matter. But what holds true is and forever will be, both organizations are separate entities and can never and will never be combined. So now UHI realizes the issue that they cannot take over HINY so they’ve gone out to try and create a rival new year celebration in Fresno to occur simultaneously . Good luck I say. All I can say is, for those who seek a fight must put up a good fight and in the end we will see who is the last one standing. UHI should stick to solving problems within the Hmong community not create it.

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Re: Fresno Hmong International New Year drama
« Reply #11 on: August 07, 2010, 11:44:01 PM »
So there might be two new years in Fresno this year, eh?  I remember during the 97-98 new year, there were three!  One at the Kmart parking lot, one at the fairground, and one at Sunnyside. 

Yeah, history does repeat itself.   8)



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Re: Fresno Hmong International New Year drama
« Reply #12 on: August 07, 2010, 11:45:23 PM »
Thanks gappie for the history of this.. Pretty interesting i should say. I will still be warm at home with the family when this time comes. Everyone else.. Have fun.



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Re: Fresno Hmong International New Year drama
« Reply #13 on: August 08, 2010, 01:02:04 AM »
Hmoob ib txwm hais tias "Hmoob tsis sib hlub Hmoob, leejtwg thiaj yuav hlub Hmoob" los Hmoob tseem niaj hnub tsis txawj sib hlub Hmoob.  Hmoob tseem niaj hnub sib tog tsis paub sib pab sib txhawb zog.  Vim li no es Hmoob thiaj li tsis muaj ib lub tebchaws uas yog Hmoob tug.  Yog hnub twg Hmoob muaj tebchaws mas ntshe yuav muaj tsov rog tsis txawj tu li os.



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Re: Fresno Hmong International New Year drama
« Reply #14 on: August 08, 2010, 01:24:08 AM »
these organizations will say anything to cover up there violations of pocketing government funds into their own pocket. Anyone with any sense knows the reason why these organizations are fighting each other to host the new year...and that's MONEY! otherwise there wouldnt be any fightings..in fact they probably encourage one another to host the new year b/c either one wouldnt want to do all the hard work of holding such event and get crap out of it.

sorry no government funds here. and it's not all about money, it's about respect and pride in what you do and who you are as a person. and believe it or not... a lot of people do work for free for their community.



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