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The supernatural and the natural world
« on: August 30, 2010, 06:56:02 PM »
Science can not explain the supernatural world, the world to where God is.  So if Science can not explain the world of God(s) then how are we still have idiots who are saying that Science can debunk God? 

Here is another example that can make you understand this natural to supernatural world issue a tad better.  My explanation can be found in some of Plato's work for what he classified as the natural and the supernatural. 

-God, we classified that as from the Supernatural world because we can not put God on the platter and show it to us like how Science can take things that they are able to see and to proof such theories. 
-Mathematics, if we go out there in the boonies like Yosemite National Parks, the pure form of nature and I tell you to show me the number 10 for example, can you show me a number 10 in nature?  So math, in this sense is not from the natural world either.

However, most to all of us can agree with mathematics but we all can not understand the concept of a God.  Both are from the Supernatural world but not all of us can agree to such idea at all. 

God is like Math although science have proven that math is wrong but science has nothing on God.  Now isn't that something to think about? 



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Re: The supernatural and the natural world
« Reply #1 on: August 30, 2010, 07:33:43 PM »
The omnipotent one works in mysterious ways and tweaks the truth to conform with all the different, changing aspects of societies....l ike moving his son's birthday to december 25.  Right....right ;D



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Re: The supernatural and the natural world
« Reply #2 on: August 30, 2010, 07:51:10 PM »
The omnipotent one works in mysterious ways and tweaks the truth to conform with all the different, changing aspects of societies....l ike moving his son's birthday to december 25.  Right....right ;D


Did he move it or did Man made an error or pick a day that is best for the condition?  Do you even have any freaking idea to start at this? 



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Re: The supernatural and the natural world
« Reply #3 on: August 30, 2010, 07:53:44 PM »
Once again, Science is from our natural world as Science is out to debunk the natural world like how science is out to debunk or make theories better. 

Science has nothing on God. 



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Re: The supernatural and the natural world
« Reply #4 on: August 31, 2010, 01:15:24 AM »
In other words, Science is out to debunk itself as science have shown that it have debunked theories. 

Science has nothing on God because God or theology is not a science but an art. 

You can use science to try to debunk the bible but the bible is not God.  Who here prays to the bible?  LOL



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Re: The supernatural and the natural world
« Reply #5 on: August 31, 2010, 02:16:38 AM »
Science have weakness because science can not explain any moral or ethical issues. 

Can you use science to proof why killing is morally right or wrong? 




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Re: The supernatural and the natural world
« Reply #6 on: August 31, 2010, 01:22:37 PM »
You are dumb.

Science does not seek to disprove anything. Never did I ever claim that science has proven God doesn't exist and any intelligent thoughtful non-believer would say the same. I don't believe in God because there is no reason to believe he exists. The world is the same with or without him.

I never once claimed he didn't exist as a FACT. I simply have stated over and over again that there is no proof of his existence. Although you (and your cohorts) keep trying to get me to "prove" God doesn't exist. That is a worthless strawman argument. There is simply no way I can prove God doesn't exist like you can't prove that Santa, the Easter Bunny or any other fictional characters don't exist. Only an idiot would waste their time trying to prove the non-existence of something and only idiots would believe in the existence of something without proof.


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Re: The supernatural and the natural world
« Reply #7 on: August 31, 2010, 05:28:07 PM »
There is simply no way I can prove God doesn't exist like you can't prove that Santa, the Easter Bunny or any other fictional characters don't exist.


Fairies, Elves, Gnomes, Angels....




BTW, don't even fret about this thread. It is Titled, "The supernatural and the natural world"

FAKE WORLD vs. REAL WORLD.

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Re: The supernatural and the natural world
« Reply #8 on: August 31, 2010, 05:43:42 PM »
i can prove the supernatural world exist or not... using nothing but the natural world to do so...

itll be a one way ticket for those who wants to know...



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Re: The supernatural and the natural world
« Reply #9 on: August 31, 2010, 06:35:59 PM »
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Science does not seek to disprove anything. Never did I ever claim that science has proven God doesn't exist and any intelligent thoughtful non-believer would say the same.

say what again?  Your bf the nim rod disagrees with you. 

At least you are smart enough to say that Science does not disprove a God unlike that nim rod dumb dumb who say that science disprove a god.  Evil in deed tried but he doesn't count because he's shark bait.  LOL

Now that's funny.  Someone is the dummy.  It is either you or the nim rod dude.  Battle it up with him for kicks.  ha ha ha ha ha ha

Read over your own chit again vang.  Why are you using "I" all over the place when I'm not talking about you or quoting you?  LOL



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Re: The supernatural and the natural world
« Reply #10 on: August 31, 2010, 06:41:00 PM »
It is either you or the nim rod dude.  Battle it up with him for kicks.  ha ha ha ha ha ha

Here let me break it down,

You are just slow, and misunderstand science. There you go. Your God deals with the FAKE WORLD. The FAKE AND REAL are different worlds. Evolution disproves the BIBLE (therefore your God) because of the conflicting claims vs. SCIENTIFIC FACTS. Your God does not exist because of a LACK of EVIDENCE. There is no NEED of a GOD. Everywhere science has looked/explained showed that there was no work of God/need for a God.

You have to prove your God with evidence, listen to the EXPERT:


Here (I am NOT a Theoretical Physicists, so I will quote one for you to make a point):

"...there is no proof that it exist. Remarkable claims, require remarkable proof. But maybe you don't need proof. Well, I do." - Michio Kaku
Cited: <BBC show about The Bible, Scientific Evidence of Geological Time> (Let me know if you want a link)

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AGAIN:

"...there is no proof that it exist. - Michio Kaku
Cited: <BBC show about The Bible, Scientific Evidence of Geological Time> (Let me know if you want a link)

Theoretical Physicist Michio Kaku said your God does NOT exist!

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Re: The supernatural and the natural world
« Reply #11 on: August 31, 2010, 06:47:19 PM »
Here let me break it down,

You are just slow, and misunderstand science. There you go. Your God deals with the FAKE WORLD. The FAKE AND REAL are different worlds. Evolution disproves the BIBLE (therefore your God) because of the conflicting claims vs. SCIENTIFIC FACTS. Your God does not exist because of a LACK of EVIDENCE. There is no NEED of a GOD. Everywhere science has looked/explained showed that there was no work of God/need for a God.

You have to prove your God with evidence, listen to the EXPERT:


Here (I am NOT a Theoretical Physicists, so I will quote one for you to make a point):

 :idiot2:


Oh there you go again.  You say evolution, a science is disproving a god and yet, vang is smart enough by saying that science has nothing on God. 

Once again son, take lessons from me because I will make you smarter.

The theory of evolution is an observation in nature.  Is there a God in nature?  How can you measure God, something that is a part of the scientific method to measure something that is not found in nature? 

Go ask your cute friends at physicforum.co m and paste what they say on here.  LOL



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Re: The supernatural and the natural world
« Reply #12 on: August 31, 2010, 06:48:46 PM »
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Theoretical Physicist Michio Kaku said your God does NOT exist!

Again, I can find you people who say that your bf kaku is a nut case.  ha ha ha ha ha

Again, what does a theoretical physicist have to do with the theory of evolution, a biological science field?  Can kuku talk on the theory of evolution too?   LOL



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Re: The supernatural and the natural world
« Reply #13 on: August 31, 2010, 06:51:34 PM »
say what again?  Your bf the nim rod disagrees with you. 

At least you are smart enough to say that Science does not disprove a God unlike that nim rod dumb dumb who say that science disprove a god.  Evil in deed tried but he doesn't count because he's shark bait.  LOL

Now that's funny.  Someone is the dummy.  It is either you or the nim rod dude.  Battle it up with him for kicks.  ha ha ha ha ha ha

Read over your own chit again vang.  Why are you using "I" all over the place when I'm not talking about you or quoting you?  LOL


god of the bible is already disproved...

but a god god...

lolz... show me a god so i can disprove him for you...

no god/s shown means its already disproved...



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Re: The supernatural and the natural world
« Reply #14 on: August 31, 2010, 06:53:24 PM »
god of the bible is already disproved...

but a god god...

lolz... show me a god so i can disprove him for you...

no god/s shown means its already disproved...

who disprove the god of the bible?  Do you have credible source for that or are you talking funny again?   Keep your opinions to yourself if that is what you believe.  ha ha ha ha ha ha

Are you using science to disprove God?  another ha ha ha ha ha ha ha



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