Why are Hmong people's wedding the lamest one of any other nat.

[Hmongol]

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Seriously... Some nationality are showered with confettis while others dance till they're leg hurts. Some are held in a beautiful places and some have food that you only see in restaurant.

I'm so sick of doing our wedding in someone's damn basement and eating lai or la (however you spell it).
It's not even the place that ticks me, but it's how they do it... I don't know about others, but I would really like to remember how my wedding day went instead of waking up the next morning with a hang over.

If you really think about it, the wedding isn't even about you... It's just for a bunch of old dudes acting all important and act like they've known you all your life. They get drunk eat la and act like they are making important decision for your life. All you do is stand there look retarded and get force fed of alcohol along with your buddies. Hand them 6k or whatsoever and that's that.

There's really nothing relatively special or meaningful about it at all.
(We don't even have to abandon our religion, at least make the wedding more memorable)

[realism]

LA is NASTY 

[yamaha]

lol dude..u must married the cruel family people then...drinkin g is for celebrations for the wedding, everybody drink and eat and celebrate the groom and bride wedding...

and if you don't want to drink that's fine..it's just you that don't care and respect others but want your way that's why.. you ain' t the only one who's drunk and have the hang over the next morning.

[aria]

Well I guess what did you expect? Hmong people lived in dirt floor huts in the mountains of SEAsia. It's definitely not a posh locale. Compare to the huts, a basement is probably an upgrade. Were Hmong people more city-dwellers, the celebration might be different. Hmong weddings being what they are, many couples are opting for westernized reception anyways.

[Reporter]

Traditional Hmong weddings take place at the bride's family's home, not at any other location. That's why you aren't at a large, fancy auditorium or public park.

Now, these days, there are people who have taken it a step farther: they do the American wedding after the Hmong wedding. The American wedding can be done anywhere--a nightclubs, parks, fancy hotels, school auditoriums, churches, etc.

I bet you attended just the Hmong wedding.

[ToxicCum]

IDIOT ALERT!  ---> incutebus 

u would prob kick a hmong person when they are down too, right?

the other idiots are the ones who gave u plus karma hits....kuz if they only knew ud kick em when they are down just kuz they are hmong.... 

[Lady_Fallin]

Please go research before generalizing. 

[Someone]

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Seriously... Some nationality are showered with confettis while others dance till they're leg hurts. Some are held in a beautiful places and some have food that you only see in restaurant.

I'm so sick of doing our wedding in someone's damn basement and eating lai or la (however you spell it).
It's not even the place that ticks me, but it's how they do it... I don't know about others, but I would really like to remember how my wedding day went instead of waking up the next morning with a hang over.

If you really think about it, the wedding isn't even about you... It's just for a bunch of old dudes acting all important and act like they've known you all your life. They get drunk eat la and act like they are making important decision for your life. All you do is stand there look retarded and get force fed of alcohol along with your buddies. Hand them 6k or whatsoever and that's that.

There's really nothing relatively special or meaningful about it at all.
(We don't even have to abandon our religion, at least make the wedding more memorable)

   ok, if your that dumb, why don't you fork over 5k+ to rent a hall and have the food be cater.  I'm sure the bride's family won't reject the offer.  You can even have a special room for them to go and talk about the price and so on.....  If you can't fork over the Moola, then SHUT UP and  be happy you have at least a basement to go to..

[acid]

  u very disppoint on your wedding, it's called wait until you can stand on your feet and do what you want then get merry,  if you have nothing and your parents do all the planning and run the wedding then stop complainning.  I agree with your idea but not your harsh critisism. never get merry until you can handle the situation, work and afford it.

[Melony]

Every nationality has it's own ritual way of celebrating weddings. I wouldn't say that the lamest wedding is a Hmong wedding because other nationality may get to see it and say they wish their's is like ours. Anyways, be proud of who your are!

[child_molester]

quite crying, u fukn baby

[Hmongol]

Wow, either majority of the repliers can't read because I don't think I wrote that I couldn't afford 6k or a basement... It's the fact that it's bland and doesn't have anything beautifull about it.

If you like me to draw a picture I will...

-toxicum: I don't even understand your jibberish at all, people kick people all the time (human nature)

-someone : You're beautiful and all but I doubt theres not much up there because money wasn't an issue in the thread.

-lady fallin : I've done enough researched, been to about 30 weddings which I can honestly say from personal experience that they have all been the same boring, drunken orgy fest in crowded basements although one was held in a community center but it will still infested with drunken orgies.

-Melony: I don't know melony, I doubt much people will be intrested in basements, drunks and LA... now on the other hand it could pass for a porno scene.

-child molester: why don't you go touch yourself.

[Pineapple]

There are beautiful things about having a Hmong wedding...such as the umbrella and the siv ceeb.  It symbolize the significance of the newlywed being eternally sheltered under one roof.  The two are accompanied by this umbrella on the first day of the wedding until the end when they arrive back to the husband's home where the umbrella gets open.  Then the elders give them koob hmoov (luck) etc which are suppose to be kept and guide them under their umbrella as they unite as one. 

I personally think this is more beautiful than having two rings, but that's just my opinion lol.
 

[Pineapple]

The wedding should be up to the Bride and Groom and how they want it to be like. Whether it is contemporary christian or traditional home wedding; or maybe even BOTH! Ultimately, the decision is theirs. Not their parents, grandparents, or relatives.

The only time when the parents and relatives should jump in is when they are UNDER 18!!! I think that's what happened back then. Too many kids were getting married and that explains the crash course wedding!!!
Isn't opening an umbrella inside your house bad luck?...

I thought the umbrella stood for the ancestors and lawv cov dab qhua. That's why the mej koob uses it during the wedding ritual if the bride's family makes the groom and best man "pes!" Which in this case is always the same if both family is non-christian or vice versa. No matter what you always have to pes according to the mej koobs.

If I have to "pes" to anyone I am not marrying that girl. No woman is worth losing your dignity over.
Someone please elaborate?

Here's a controversial excerpt from an article I found about the Umbrella:
http://www.thefreelibrary.com/A+critique+of+Timothy+Vang%27s+Hmong+religious+conversion+and...-a0207392384

Finally, in Vang's interpretation of the social significance of the wedding Umbrella (lub kaus), (28) he argues that

   Reliance on the umbrella to protect the bride home, to keep her
   soul from being stolen from the evil spirits is superstition. The
   Lord always protect His people (Deut, 23:14; Psa. 5:11). Only those
   who are without the Lord is without protection (Num. 14.9). [sic]
   Such people may psychologicall y depend on the umbrella to protect
   them. Christians need the face of the Lord to shine upon them and
   give them peace (Num. 6:24-26) rather than the fragile umbrella"
   (1998: 228-229, emphasis added).

Here's another site written about the umbrella:
http://www.wiipps.org/BTS/courtship_subpages/trad_wedding.html

That means you won't be marrying anyone whose family is still traditional, right?

[Pineapple]

Nope... Which caused a lot of heartache when I was younger...

My heart is in bigger hands I hope. I'm just that lonely guy sitting by himself at the pew alone every Sunday.

Praying.

But that means you are eliminating a lot of wonderful women.  Being traditional does not necessarily mean that you will have to pes.  A lot of traditional family are open to other ways besides having a traditional Hmong wedding.