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last name questions!!
« on: January 25, 2011, 02:26:22 PM »
do you know which animals are associated with the clan?

in the orgin myth, where the flesh of meat fell where to create the clan?

i'm mostly interested in LEE, MOUA, CHA, YANG.



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Re: last name questions!!
« Reply #1 on: January 25, 2011, 03:13:45 PM »



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Re: last name questions!!
« Reply #2 on: January 25, 2011, 03:27:33 PM »
yea i found that after. but it has nothing on CHA(CHANG).



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Re: last name questions!!
« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2011, 06:21:56 PM »
Quote from: EmperessGNL on January 25, 2011, 03:27:33 PM
yea i found that after. but it has nothing on CHA(CHANG).


OK, Ms. Cha, didn't it say this?:

Tsab (Cha)   cha di, Maybe it's a bear,
                          Heevnrig Ntaus



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Re: last name questions!!
« Reply #4 on: January 25, 2011, 06:24:52 PM »
its the clam.



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Re: last name questions!!
« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2011, 07:41:11 PM »
Quote from: Reporter on January 25, 2011, 06:21:56 PM

OK, Ms. Cha, didn't it say this?:

Tsab (Cha)   cha di, Maybe it's a bear,
                          Heevnrig Ntaus

i saw that. but it says MAYBE!!!!! so it's uncertian. who said anything about being a cha???



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Re: last name questions!!
« Reply #6 on: January 25, 2011, 07:56:41 PM »
Quote from: EmperessGNL on January 25, 2011, 07:41:11 PM
i saw that. but it says MAYBE!!!!! so it's uncertian. who said anything about being a cha???

Wild guess, I guess. :2funny:



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Re: last name questions!!
« Reply #7 on: January 25, 2011, 07:58:23 PM »
Quote from: SV1985 on January 25, 2011, 06:24:52 PM
its the clam.

Maybe.

Anyway, I'm thinking, the Hmong in Laos originally recognized only 12 clans. And to say that the gourd got cut up and thrown into 12 locations, each with a specific animal--that might mean we have the same 12 animals of the Chinese Zodiac, right?

Just guessing.



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Re: last name questions!!
« Reply #8 on: January 26, 2011, 07:26:10 PM »
Quote from: EmperessGNL on January 25, 2011, 07:41:11 PM
i saw that. but it says MAYBE!!!!! so it's uncertian. who said anything about being a cha???

its all maybes... myths are always maybes...

Quote from: Reporter on January 25, 2011, 07:58:23 PM
Anyway, I'm thinking, the Hmong in Laos originally recognized only 12 clans. And to say that the gourd got cut up and thrown into 12 locations, each with a specific animal--that might mean we have the same 12 animals of the Chinese Zodiac, right?
Quote from: Insignia on January 25, 2011, 08:02:17 PM
Heard the same thing.

theyre not all animals...



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Re: last name questions!!
« Reply #9 on: February 01, 2011, 01:16:06 AM »
Taken from Hmonza

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Yawmsaub hais rau nkawv tag, ces nkawv thiajli rovqab los txog tsev. Nkawv los muab nkawv lub niag qenqaij uas zoo li lub niag taub dag, es ua pa nthaws nthoom ntawv, nkawv muab phua raws nkaus li Yamwsaub hais qhia rau nkawv. Nkawv pw hmo ntawv ib hmo. Tagkis kajntug, ua cas nim pom neeg nyob ua tsev pheebsuab zomzaws rau qab vag tsib taug.

Hos niam rauvtaws ua ncho oov niab. Nkawv thiajli sawv mus xyuas thiab mu snug, uaciav, muaj 12 nkawm niamtxiv hluas hluas, zoo-zoonkauj, zoo-zoonraug. Hos pom dheev nkawv mas nim kimcaug ntwb ntuas, tsates hawm nkawvmos nywbnyoos xwb. Ces nkawv thiajli paub tias yog nkawv cov me tub menyuam uas Yawmsaub qhia rau nkawv.

Nkawv coj los tsev, nkawv tsis paub yuav tisnpe rau li. Nkawv thiajli muab hu raws li cov nqaij uas nkawv coj mus khuam:

Tus khuam raum saum tsob MAJ, nkawv muab hu ua YAJ.

Tus khuam raum saum tsob NTOO, nkawv muab hu ua XYOOJ.

Tus khuam raum saum tsob CAWJ, nkawv muab hu ua HAWJ.

Tus khuam raum saum tsob NROJ, nkawv muab hu ua THOJ.

Tus khuam raum saum tsob TAUJ, nkawv muab hu ua LAUJ.

Tus khuam raum saum tsob SWM, nkawv muab hu ua KWM.

Tus khuam raum saum tsob TSUAG, nkawv muab hu ua MUAS.

Tus khuam raum saum tsob NTSEEJ, nkawv muab hu ua YEEJ.

Tus khuam raum saum tsob TSAJ, nkawv muab hu ua VAJ.

Tus khuam raum saum tsob THWJ, nkawv muab hu ua VWJ.

Tus khuam raum saum tsob NCAJMIS, nkawv muab hu ua LIS.

Tus khuam raum saum tsob NYAB, nkawv muab hu ua TSAB.


Lawv sawvdaws muaj npe tag, ces nkawv ob tug ua niam, ua txiv, nkawv mam coj nkawv cov me tub, menyuam mus ua vaj, ua tsev, ua noj, ua haus, nyob yam kajsiab lug los tau ntev xyoo. Lawv thiajli muaj tub, muaj ki, muaj xeebzeej, xeebntxwv coob zujzus. Lawv tsis zoo sib yuav ua txij ua nkawm, tsis zoo ua tshoob ua kos. Tuam Lij Koob ob tug yog Pojsaub thiab Yawmsaub, nkawv muab nkawv cov menyuam teebfeeb ua 12 lub xeem. Kom zoo rau tej tub, tej ntxhais sib yuav ua txij ua nkawm, ua tshoob ua kos.

Ces tus hu ua YAJ, txawm ua xeem YAJ

Ces tus hu ua XYOOJ, txawm ua xeem XYOOJ

Ces tus hu ua HAWJ, txawm ua xeem HAWJ

Ces tus hu ua THOJ, txawm ua xeem THOJ

Ces tus hu ua LAUJ, txawm ua xeem LAUJ

Ces tus hu ua KWM, txawm ua xeem KWM

Ces tus hu ua MUAS, txawm ua xeem MUAS

Ces tus hu ua YEEJ, txawm ua xeem YEEJ

Ces tus hu ua VAJ, txawm ua xeem VAJ

Ces tus hu ua VWJ, txawm ua xeem VWJ

Ces tus hu ua LIS, txawm ua xeem LIS

Ces tus hu ua TSAB, txawm ua xeem TSAB



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Re: last name questions!!
« Reply #10 on: February 01, 2011, 11:05:51 AM »
too much hmong for me to read. i'm still learning to read hmong, i'm slow at it. so translation anyone??



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Re: last name questions!!
« Reply #11 on: February 01, 2011, 04:33:12 PM »
thanks insignia! i'll try it out!



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