abortion is a form of crime control.

[YAX]

Yup.  What do you think of that?

[sprite]

^^^ Where are the black phers to dispute this kind of racist ideology. 

[Peachy Fish]

Yup.  What do you think of that?

Hmm...I never thought of it that way...always thought of it as a financial/poverty/maturity issue, but, yeah, I can see that.

Poor = possibly > corruption

[YAX]

There are stats to show it.

^^^ Where are the black phers to dispute this kind of racist ideology. 

It's not a racist ideology.  There are stats to prove it.

[Hung_Low]

Yup.  What do you think of that?

Abortion is a woman's way out of a mistake/poor choice.

[evil-in-deed]

pro choice all the way...

people who disagree should look into adoption...

[Reporter]

I could see abortion as a crime control in cases where women are raped. But I don't see it as such in cases where the couples were actually willing to conceive a child together.  Legally married couples have had abortions. Are we to say that their kids would be criminals if let born in every case? Not so.

[evil-in-deed]

I could see abortion as a crime control in cases where women are raped. But I don't see it as such in cases where the couples were actually willing to conceive a child together.  Legally married couples have had abortions. Are we to say that their kids would be criminals if let born in every case? Not so.

a couple that is willing to conceive a child together wanting an abortion?...

[the_almighty]

Yup.  What do you think of that?

Abortion isn't a form of crime control.  It's ludicrous to draw a conclusion of crime control from abortion.  An aborted fetus could have been the next Einstein, Beethoven, or president of the free world.  Abortion is simply a choice that all mothers (should) have.  The potential of an aborted fetus is unknown and limitless.

[the_almighty]

There are stats to show it.It's not a racist ideology.  There are stats to prove it.

Riddle me this.

If the fetus has been aborted, how do you collect the statistics on the life of crime that the fetus would have had?

Can you statistically give me the winning super lottery numbers for next weeks drawings as well?

[evil-in-deed]

Riddle me this.

If the fetus has been aborted, how do you collect the statistics on the life of crime that the fetus would have had?

Can you statistically give me the winning super lottery numbers for next weeks drawings as well?

all life is a crime...

[YAX]

Riddle me this.

If the fetus has been aborted, how do you collect the statistics on the life of crime that the fetus would have had?

Can you statistically give me the winning super lottery numbers for next weeks drawings as well?

I can give you the winning numbers from the last drawing and other previous drawings though..

How do they collect stats?  I believe the way to do it was to compare states.  What if you had the crime rates of states and the growth rate of crimes from all the states before abortion was legalized.  Then you compared it to data after abortion was legalized.  Furthermore, you made comparisons of the growth rates of crimes between states who were conservative and discouraged abortions to create an environment with very low abortion rates vs more liberal states with higher abortion rates.  Why if the growth rates of crimes in the high rates slowed while the other states remained close to their previous records.  If you can find a correlation, you've got a valid case.   

[hmg-eng]

Statistics are over-rated. 90% of the time the statistics aren't even scientific.  Also it's hard to actually connect something like abortion to crime rate.

[YAX]

Alot of studies that people do involve correlations.  If they come up with 25% correlation, it's VERY significant already.

[vangkm007]

Statistics are over-rated. 90% of the time the statistics aren't even scientific.  Also it's hard to actually connect something like abortion to crime rate.

You'd think so but try reading "Freakonomics". The connection is clear and well made. They look at times when abortion rates are low (because of low gov support from Repub presidents), and then see crime rise decades later when those unwanted children come of age (teenagers) and commit crimes.

By using statistics the authors even figured out that there are a certain number of sumo matches that have been fixed.