What outside influences are tearing the Hmong community apart???

[3miao]

http://seanlinnane.blogspot.com/2009/08/guru-of-war-colonel-john-boyd.html?m=1
+Moral warfare
+Mental warfare
+Physical warfare

These are elements of war that modern society engages in.  I noticed the first element involves disunity.  Our community suffers disunity. Who did this to us and how did they do it?

http://www.mathaba.net/news/pda.shtml?x=618620
This may explain the how...  Someone collected information on the community for later use.  These people normally are religious people, anthropologist s, or business people.  The most potent are religious people because they are able to recruit willing colaborators to create distrust unknowingly.

This may explain the current state of our community.  What other outside influences are tearing our community apart???

[8v10un30sun]

Disunity is caused by greed for power.  Since the beginning of our time each clan have been greedy for power.  It's a common problem among all ethnic groups.  (See Japan, Korea, China, etc... for more examples.)Without a strong national identity or a super culture to absorb the rest then you cannot overcome such.  Hence for China to have created their identity and unity Mao did away with all religon, and nearly all cultures.  Once the national identity, China was established and its people was reformed, little by little more freedom was given because without freedom, you will not have a culture, and without a culture, once the central government falls, another super culture will absorb you.  Possibly Japan, Europe or USA.  With a strong national identity and culture, it is incredibly hard to be absorb.  If you look back to Roman time, even though they conquor Greek, their culture was so influence by Greek that it appeared they continue the Greek culture to a new level, and to now, it seems like the USA is merely a continuation of modern Rome. 

[3miao]

Disunity is caused by greed for power.  Since the beginning of our time each clan have been greedy for power.  It's a common problem among all ethnic groups.  (See Japan, Korea, China, etc... for more examples.)Without a strong national identity or a super culture to absorb the rest then you cannot overcome such.  Hence for China to have created their identity and unity Mao did away with all religon, and nearlwy all cultures.  Once the national identity, China was established and its people was reformed, little by little more freedom was given because without freedom, you will not have a culture, and without a culture, once the central government falls, another super culture will absorb you.  Possibly Japan, Europe or USA.  With a strong national identity and culture, it is incredibly hard to be absorb.  If you look back to Roman time, even though they conquor Greek, their culture was so influence by Greek that it appeared they continue the Greek culture to a new level, and to now, it seems like the USA is merely a continuation of modern Rome. 

I agree there are internal factors as you mentioned...  The defeat is the result of external factors such as China's role in the Vietnam War.  The missionary's role in the conquest of Indochina.

[Reporter]

Let's not blame outside forces when we aren't strong within ourselves to oppose them.

[8v10un30sun]

Let's not blame outside forces when we aren't strong within ourselves to oppose them.

I agree with you Reporter.  We were not strong enough.    

You guys know what the US loves doing the most?  They would come in and find a person like GVP who could rally a group of people and utilize ethnic group vs ethnic group in a local region.  Then when the US supporter can no longer support his pet project they would fall back due to political pressure and a wave of refugee would pour into the US.  This happened in Indochina, Latin America, Africa, and the Middle East.  History tells a pattern of US.  Hence, many don't trust US in long term policy since the power shift happens every 4 years.

[3miao]

I agree with you Reporter.  We were not strong enough.    

You guys know what the US loves doing the most?  They would come in and find a person like GVP who could rally a group of people and utilize ethnic group vs ethnic group in a local region.  Then when the US supporter can no longer support his pet project they would fall back due to political pressure and a wave of refugee would pour into the US.  This happened in Indochina, Latin America, Africa, and the Middle East.  History tells a pattern of US.  Hence, many don't trust US in long term policy since the power shift happens every 4 years.

Quite true...  I just want to open people's eyes to these shadow elements.  We have many people who swallow the whole bs without realizing the harm the are doing to their family.

[Reporter]

I agree with you Reporter.  We were not strong enough.    

You guys know what the US loves doing the most?  They would come in and find a person like GVP who could rally a group of people and utilize ethnic group vs ethnic group in a local region.  Then when the US supporter can no longer support his pet project they would fall back due to political pressure and a wave of refugee would pour into the US.  This happened in Indochina, Latin America, Africa, and the Middle East.  History tells a pattern of US.  Hence, many don't trust US in long term policy since the power shift happens every 4 years.

Quite true...  I just want to open people's eyes to these shadow elements.  We have many people who swallow the whole bs without realizing the harm the are doing to their family.

[ToxicCum]

These are elements of war that modern society engages in.  I noticed the first element involves disunity.  Our community suffers disunity. Who did this to us and how did they do it?

those two articles are obsolete, as it cannot be compared to unity. didnt make a full connection on unity at all...said a bunch of other jiborish...

anyways....Hmo ngs are united...do not think we are not...and we will remain united...why do we have fresno, stpaul/mpls and wisconsin? kuz them kats just cant get away from each other...

but problem is....learning how to think and deal with each other is another issue...but it doesnt mean we are not united...we are!

all in all....a few break aways here and there maybe a good thing....as history has proven, a villager who strays away may come back with a new crop....

as i said, learn how to think.....

[3miao]

those two articles are obsolete, as it cannot be compared to unity. didnt make a full connection on unity at all...said a bunch of other jiborish...

anyways....Hmo ngs are united...do not think we are not...and we will remain united...why do we have fresno, stpaul/mpls and wisconsin? kuz them kats just cant get away from each other...

but problem is....learning how to think and deal with each other is another issue...but it doesnt mean we are not united...we are!

all in all....a few break aways here and there maybe a good thing....as history has proven, a villager who strays away may come back with a new crop....

as i said, learn how to think.....

Do you know what unity is?  Do you know how unity is destroyed?  The doctrine espouse by Col. Boyd is as relavent as ever.  Look at Libya.  Gaddafi is isolated and physical warfare finishes him off.

What type of tools did people use to create the isolation?  Media, religion, education, anything that will cause doubt....

Could Gaddafi have prevented it? The answer is Yes.  He needed to embrace his people instead he did just the opposite.  Economic wealth was not spread to the mass.  How about his allies the Arabs, Russians and China? If he sold his oil to China, the Chinese would have veto the attacked.

You see all these in the Hmong community.  Profits from community events are not being used to help the community.  Hmong culture is being left to die on the vine.  Where is the cultural celebration?  Many are ashame to be identified as Hmong.

[ToxicCum]

Do you know what unity is?  

no dude...ur the only person on earth who has a brain.

 

unity must be, when u staple snow together and you get jerry springer??

[3miao]

no dude...ur the only person on earth who has a brain.

 

unity must be, when u staple snow together and you get jerry springer??

Thank you.  How did you know?

As for unity, you need to learn how to use google...  I'll do it for you this time only.....


UNITY....

http://dictionary.com/wordoftheday?q=unity&submit-result-SEARCHD=Search

[ToxicCum]

u·ni·ty:  /ˈyunɪti/ Show Spelled[yoo-ni-tee]
–noun, plural -ties.
1. the state of stapling snow bringing it together as one

2. a whole or totality as Jerry Springer, per snow stapling

3. the state or fact of being warfare and overly used words

4. pebbukmeo, is the only human trying really hard to prove hes kinda smart

[3miao]

u·ni·ty:  /ˈyunɪti/ Show Spelled[yoo-ni-tee]
–noun, plural -ties.
1. the state of stapling snow bringing it together as one

2. a whole or totality as Jerry Springer, per snow stapling

3. the state or fact of being warfare and overly used words

4. pebbukmeo, is the only human trying really hard to prove hes kinda smart

I see you went to school with pharisees...  they always talk in tongues.... 

[sprite]

For someone who wants to UNITE the Hmong people, 3miao, you sure work very hard to be a non-conformist.

I notice this same character flaw in phers who are always talking about how they want unity among Hmong. They rant about unity but work the hardest to be non-conforming. What they're really saying is:

They want Hmong to be UNITED under THEIR leadership.

 

[3miao]

For someone who wants to UNITE the Hmong people, 3miao, you sure work very hard to be a non-conformist.

I notice this same character flaw in phers who are always talking about how they want unity among Hmong. They rant about unity but work the hardest to be non-conforming. What they're really saying is:

They want Hmong to be UNITED under THEIR leadership.

I appreciate your vote of confidence but I must decline.  Power corrupts like pharisees.