Divorce women with a son

[nina_vaj]

Under the Hmong rules/belief and whatever crap.. Can a divorce woman keep the son with her and set up his marriage without the help from the father?

[Eyedumgai]

Probably not. Nobody's going to recognize her and her lack of a clan until there's a patriarch, whether directly or indirectly involved with the marriage. She's going to need the father's relatives or equivalent. 

[MilesDaddy]

Unless they marry someone not Hmong....

All the rules you guys have are FVCKEN STUPID....... as if a man who wants to be with another woman who has a kid has to ask permission in this day and age is absolutely retarded.

[Eyedumgai]

Tell me about it. Old, stupid rules that served the few who made the rules up some centuries ago and serve no purpose in todays educated, well-informed, and open society. I don't see our customs surviving for another few decades in western nations. I also equate our rules to that of sharia law.

[BeautifulDisaster]

Yes. Nowadays there's no such rules! I brought my son up and if one day he chooses to marry a Hmong woman... I guess. I'll  have to do it myself. But that never crossed my mind, btw

[thehotone]

Yes she can if she has the money to do it herself. If you have the money anyone will help you.

[autumnbreeze]

Definitely! Like thehotone said, if she has money, then she can do the wedding on her own. That's only if she's confident and brave enough though.

[DivineTreasure]

Yes.. it is possible and she can.  I don't see a problem there if she, the mother, can help take care of the wedding. 

[passingby#2]

Tell me about it. Old, stupid rules that served the few who made the rules up some centuries ago and serve no purpose in todays educated, well-informed, and open society. I don't see our customs surviving for another few decades in western nations. I also equate our rules to that of sharia law.

  I agree! These rules are so ancient. 

So, really, a grown guy cannot marry unless there's a group of guys of that says he can.  Just walk over to the local county court house and get a marriage license.....do ne deal. 

[nina_vaj]

but if the father wanted to help he has the right too .. am i correct??

[Fishhead]

Under the Hmong rules/belief and whatever crap.. Can a divorce woman keep the son with her and set up his marriage without the help from the father?

Yes! she can keep the son and change his last name. But when he grow old he will look to where is his dad. That is why the new husband
doesn't want the son. He will waist all his resources teaching step son and at the end he will run back to his daddy.

[Fishhead]

Definitely! Like thehotone said, if she has money, then she can do the wedding on her own. That's only if she's confident and brave enough though.

Wrong, They need a clan leader to represent, and this is when craps hit th wall. Hmong craps things is not just about married and done, it also
involve all the way to end of those two life.

Married = Funeral

[MilesDaddy]

Wrong, They need a clan leader to represent, and this is when craps hit th wall. Hmong craps things is not just about married and done, it also
involve all the way to end of those two life.

Married = Funeral

Fish Head.... Your way thinking is the problem.....I don't think I have to do anything if I want to marry someone as long as we love each other... I have a friend who is white... He married a Hmong girl and he refused to pay the dowry....They still got married and her dad did not attend the wedding...They still got married and they are living happily ever after....Sad part about it is..... When the wife's family needs Help $$$ they always call the daughtter for money...8 out of 10 times the husband tells them no.... MOstly because no one supported them when they got married so Oh wells

[BCSPKKTM]

She can do it without him but she'll still have to ask his clan for help. I assume she is not remarried..so her son is still considered a part of his biological father's clan. There needs to be clan members there to represent him and unite them in marriage.

[DeceiversChick]

Under the Hmong rules/belief and whatever crap.. Can a divorce woman keep the son with her and set up his marriage without the help from the father?

Yes she can.

It depends if the Son's clan have given word to his mom that he is no longer their own kind. If his father's family did then the mom can do his wedding from her side of the family. The mom's family can have it all done and they reap the benefits.