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« Reply #75 on: November 20, 2011, 10:52:23 PM »
FYI, both Ruth and Ted Andrianoff have passed away, but their daughter is still alive and living in the Seattle - Oregon area and is still very active with the Hmong people.  She actually wrote a book about her parents missions into Laos.



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« Reply #76 on: November 21, 2011, 06:08:14 PM »

I believe he has died.

I didn't get a chance to talk to my husband yet, but from memory of one of his class...

The American missionaries, Ted and Ruth Andrianoff - it may just have been Ted on this first trip - went up to this village with a Laotion interpreter and wanted to stay and spend some time with the Hmong people.  There was an abandon house that belonged to Bao Chao Thao.  He as a shaman and a leader in the village.  They told the missionaries that they could stay there.  The missionaries were very grateful and happily stayed at the abandon house. 

All night long, the villagers waited gleefully for the missionaries and the interpreter to run out screaming, to never return... for the abandon house was actually a haunted house... no one could stay through the night in it.  However, it was quiet all night long.

The next day, Bao Chao asked the missionaries if they had a good rest in the house.  Ted said that he did and thanked Bao Chao for allowing him to stay there again.  Bao Chao asked if anything happened during the night, whether they saw or heard anything strange.  Ted said no, and asked Bao why he was asking these questions.  He explained that the house has been haunted for many years and that no one has been able to spend even a single night in it.  He was wondering why the ghosts didn't bothering Ted and the interpreter.  Ted explained that he believed in God and his God was stronger than any spirits or demons.

Bao Chao wanted to know more about this God that is could conquer the spirits and ghosts of that house.  So, through the interpreter, Ted told Bao Chao about God.  He converted and became a Christian.  He went back to the village, explained everything to them and the next day, the whole village wanted to convert.  Ted led them all to Christ and baptise them that day.  He went back to Vientiane and requested for more missionaries to go and help him b/c the neighboring villages also wanted to convert.

That's all I remember... some of my facts may be a little off... I think my husband knows some of the folks that are still alive.  Are you wanting to interview them?

Thanks. That Bao Chao story of the abandoned house seems to have been the reason for conversion.

Sometimes in the near future, I'd like to interview those old "converters," yes. I'm still tied up with something else for now. But sometimes in the future.



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« Reply #77 on: November 21, 2011, 06:09:03 PM »
FYI, both Ruth and Ted Andrianoff have passed away, but their daughter is still alive and living in the Seattle - Oregon area and is still very active with the Hmong people.  She actually wrote a book about her parents missions into Laos.

Sounds interesting. I'll have to get a hold of the book first and then eventually I hope to meet with her. Do you know where I get a copy of her book?



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« Reply #78 on: November 22, 2011, 06:06:16 PM »
Sounds interesting. I'll have to get a hold of the book first and then eventually I hope to meet with her. Do you know where I get a copy of her book?

Here's a link for the book.

http://www.librarything.com/work/459364

And my husband said he knows people from that village that are still alive.  If you want to interview them, you might want to do it soon. 




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« Reply #79 on: November 22, 2011, 06:08:34 PM »
Thanks. That Bao Chao story of the abandoned house seems to have been the reason for conversion.

Sometimes in the near future, I'd like to interview those old "converters," yes. I'm still tied up with something else for now. But sometimes in the future.

Not so much the house itself, but the fact that God is stronger than those ghosts.  And that if their is a God that can overcome spirits we have spent all of our lives worhipping and appeasing, then maybe there is more to it than meets the eyes. 

God is real.  And he is alive.



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« Reply #80 on: November 22, 2011, 06:41:35 PM »
Not so much the house itself, but the fact that God is stronger than those ghosts.  And that if their is a God that can overcome spirits we have spent all of our lives worhipping and appeasing, then maybe there is more to it than meets the eyes. 

God is real.  And he is alive.

I didn't think God ever dies. Does he ever die? May that day never come!



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« Reply #81 on: November 22, 2011, 06:41:51 PM »
Here's a link for the book.

http://www.librarything.com/work/459364

And my husband said he knows people from that village that are still alive.  If you want to interview them, you might want to do it soon. 



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« Reply #82 on: November 22, 2011, 08:40:09 PM »
I didn't think God ever dies. Does he ever die? May that day never come!

I am using alive... as in real... alive... real time... lolz... some people does not even believe that he exist... much less alive... lolz!



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« Reply #83 on: November 26, 2011, 11:15:29 PM »
I am using alive... as in real... alive... real time... lolz... some people does not even believe that he exist... much less alive... lolz!

Can you prove it?

My belief is that God exists and he is at the highest plane of the universe known to us. That much I believe. I don't know how it all started but he is an incessant positive power that outdoes everything else down below him all the way to Earth and beyond.  Something like that.




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« Reply #84 on: November 28, 2011, 10:12:47 AM »
Can you prove it?

Yes. 

My belief is that God exists and he is at the highest plane of the universe known to us. That much I believe. I don't know how it all started but he is an incessant positive power that outdoes everything else down below him all the way to Earth and beyond.  Something like that.



Often times, most people have a hard time believing that God exists.  They believe that we all came from a big bowl of soup.  However, it seems that you already believe that God exists.  Perhaps the next step is for you to find out if the Christian God is real and if he is the God that you believe in.  I know that with the Hmong culture, we don't have many things written down, so everything that we have retained, has been passed down from generation to generation only. 

Why not open your heart and mind and read the Bible, asking God (the one that you believe exist) to reveal to you if the Bible is real.  Start with the book of Mark, then read the book of James.  Finish off with the Book of John. 

Many people think that Christians just follow their faith blindly, that they are too scared to question God and to seek for answers or confirmation.  I am sure that those Christians exist, but I am not one of them.  I wanted to know that truth.  I wanted to know if God really exist.  I wanted to know if he is real and if he will respond to me in real time.  So, I set out to find the answers.  God has proven to me and my children that He exists, that He is real, that He will answer your prayers... sometimes instantly, sometimes when the time is right, or other times, he doesn't because he knows it's not good for you or is not within his will.

I know that I would never be able to convince you that God exist, but I would like to challenge you to go and seek him, even with the tiny bit of believe that you currently have, that God exists - on some higher plane, higher level.  Invite this God that you believe in to come and reveal the truth to you.



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« Reply #85 on: November 28, 2011, 01:51:43 PM »
Yes. 

Often times, most people have a hard time believing that God exists.  They believe that we all came from a big bowl of soup.  However, it seems that you already believe that God exists.  Perhaps the next step is for you to find out if the Christian God is real and if he is the God that you believe in.  I know that with the Hmong culture, we don't have many things written down, so everything that we have retained, has been passed down from generation to generation only. 

Why not open your heart and mind and read the Bible, asking God (the one that you believe exist) to reveal to you if the Bible is real.  Start with the book of Mark, then read the book of James.  Finish off with the Book of John. 

Many people think that Christians just follow their faith blindly, that they are too scared to question God and to seek for answers or confirmation.  I am sure that those Christians exist, but I am not one of them.  I wanted to know that truth.  I wanted to know if God really exist.  I wanted to know if he is real and if he will respond to me in real time.  So, I set out to find the answers.  God has proven to me and my children that He exists, that He is real, that He will answer your prayers... sometimes instantly, sometimes when the time is right, or other times, he doesn't because he knows it's not good for you or is not within his will.

I know that I would never be able to convince you that God exist, but I would like to challenge you to go and seek him, even with the tiny bit of believe that you currently have, that God exists - on some higher plane, higher level.  Invite this God that you believe in to come and reveal the truth to you.

I believe our earthly human rebirths brought us to this world from God's spiritual realm.  By this, I mean we once knew God spiritually but  now that we are here in this fleshy form, we  no longer remember Him.  We need constant reminders, which is why God may have certified the preachers at our various congregations.

I will do more research--spiritually and physically--if not this life, then in another life--to see if the Christian God is the same God as the other non-Christian Gods. It's obvious my fate in this lifetime is not to prove God's existence; or else I would have gone into ministry already, right? But I believe the Bible was put together pretty well by Christians.  Yet I have a hunch that even the Christian God is the same God as the Gods worshiped by other non-Christians. People just have different ways of worshiping the high entity or supreme deity.

The Bible is very interesting and I think it's quite accurate, except I don't know how the apostles and other biblical authors could do more to prove their authenticity or the credibility of what they had witnessed.  Humans are full of biases. I can't rely entirely on an author's writings--without more historical documentations either by fossils or other imprints--to prove that what he/she wrote about was true and real. 

So, what specific incidents or knowledge have you gotten that you claim to prove God's existence?






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