funeral of divorced hmong females

[Xyooj96]

not sure if this has been debated, but here it goes

which clan/family is responsible for the rituals and costs? 

please be mature on your replies, thank you

[hmongperson]

not sure if this has been debated, but here it goes

which clan/family is responsible for the rituals and costs? 

please be mature on your replies, thank you

I think you asking in the wrong section, this belongs in the funeral sections.

As for the question, the wives family assumes the cost because she has severed all ties with her exhusband.

[Gawmp]

if the marriage is completely dissolved and there is no longer any ties with the ex-husband's side, the family of the wife's side assumes all the responsibiliti es. If for some odd reason (I've seen this before), the couples are just divorced, but not completely in regards to "dab qhuas" then the ex-husband's side of the family is still responsible for the funeral both cost and rituals.

[kye]

Excellent post!!! This is a worthy debate post.

[Reporter]

There are organizations in MN and WI that are working on this issue alone. That's because people these days just don't let go everything completely and some just don't finish things before they take off. For example, a lady and her husband have been fighting about a divorce; they have not finalized it with the two sides of the relatives yet, but she has taken off with another boyfriend. Meanwhile she got into an accident that killed her. Now her husband isn't willing to be responsible for her funeral; neither does her father's clan, since they felt that she was still the husband's wife.

What do we do about such situations? Good question.  It's not just the money for the funeral. Some times life insurance takes care of that. For the Hmong, a funeral is more than costs: it's spiritual and social issues, too.

[evil-in-deed]

not sure if this has been debated, but here it goes

which clan/family is responsible for the rituals and costs? 

please be mature on your replies, thank you

youve left out too many factors to make a pin point decision...

religion and culture of everyone involved... secondary, residency...

or the answer will just have to be as broad as your question...

the ones that are responsible for the rituals and costs are the ones that want to do it...

[No regret]

if she's completely divorce, then it would be her real biological family.

[Qau]

For example, a lady and her husband have been fighting about a divorce; they have not finalized it with the two sides of the relatives yet, but she has taken off with another boyfriend. Meanwhile she got into an accident that killed her. Now her husband isn't willing to be responsible for her funeral; neither does her father's clan, since they felt that she was still the husband's wife.

Perhaps the bf should bury her. No self-respecting Hmong clan will bury her. She running away with a BF usually means both sides could not resolved the issue(s) so they dont' care.  Give me the life insurance es kuv mam tuaj tshuab qeej.

[mronline]

interesting though, over all, her biological siblings, parents would take care of the funeral costs. not to mention if she  has grown up children  as well. if the husband wants to help, assuming he is still alive, the door is always open. and never hurt to  carry well over 1000k life insurance policy.

[yuknowthat]

not sure if this has been debated, but here it goes

which clan/family is responsible for the rituals and costs? 

please be mature on your replies, thank you

it'll be the divorce female side of the family to take care of, not the ex husband because they're divorced or separated. that's why hmong elders said (nrauj kom hmab tu, hlua pluam)..ex husband hold no responsibility of the funeral ritual and cost because she is not married to him nor is part of his family no more. But if she one day goes out with one of her boyfriend and something happens to her . The bf will hold full responsibility of the funeral cost but the only ritual will be perform is her side of the family or christian way or cremation but not the bf ritual because she's not married to him yet and has not become his wife to the family.

[Reporter]

Perhaps the bf should bury her. No self-respecting Hmong clan will bury her. She running away with a BF usually means both sides could not resolved the issue(s) so they dont' care.  Give me the life insurance es kuv mam tuaj tshuab qeej.

Good points. But these situations are shaky, really. 

[tetrapod]

I think her parents and siblings.

[HmongKnight]

What about you have a daughter that went on to live with her boyfriend but was never married to him for a long time. If she dies, who will pay for all the funeral cost? The boyfriend and his side of the family or you and your family?

[yuknowthat]

bf..

[HmongKnight]

Wrong, the parents pay for her funeral cost.. I've never seen the boyfriend pay for it before..