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Kicking the bone at the funeral door
« on: September 27, 2011, 10:27:53 AM »
My hsb's family practice the kicking the bone by the txiv qeej at the funeral door before the deceased leaves the funeral home for burial. Can someone explain this as I've only seen this once. Thanks.



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Re: Kicking the bone at the funeral door
« Reply #1 on: September 27, 2011, 12:24:00 PM »
I've never heard of such thing...hum. Do they actually use a real bone piece for this practice?



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Re: Kicking the bone at the funeral door
« Reply #2 on: September 27, 2011, 12:26:36 PM »
I've never heard of such thing...hum. Do they actually use a real bone piece for this practice?

yes. but i can't remember what piece of bone. the txiv qeej plays his song and when he walks out, he kicks it to knock it over and then the casket follows.



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Re: Kicking the bone at the funeral door
« Reply #3 on: September 28, 2011, 01:50:47 PM »
u sure its not the table?



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Re: Kicking the bone at the funeral door
« Reply #4 on: September 28, 2011, 04:22:43 PM »
kicking the bone? never seen that but i've seen tu txhib ntawg?



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Re: Kicking the bone at the funeral door
« Reply #5 on: September 29, 2011, 08:46:33 AM »
u sure its not the table?

nope. not the table. i've seen those too but this is by the funeral door before the casket is taken out.



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Re: Kicking the bone at the funeral door
« Reply #6 on: October 21, 2011, 03:00:27 PM »
the "bone" is the jaw of tus npua tsa neeg....txiv neej ces tua hneev, pojniam ces tuam tsaig npua...qhov no yog muab tus npua tsa neeg no tuam kom qaug es xob muaj tuag ntxiv lawm xwb.



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Re: Kicking the bone at the funeral door
« Reply #7 on: October 24, 2011, 05:31:36 PM »
the "bone" is the jaw of tus npua tsa neeg....txiv neej ces tua hneev, pojniam ces tuam tsaig npua...qhov no yog muab tus npua tsa neeg no tuam kom qaug es xob muaj tuag ntxiv lawm xwb.

interesting, Thanks for the insight.  I've never seen this done before either.



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Re: Kicking the bone at the funeral door
« Reply #8 on: October 25, 2011, 08:22:52 AM »
the "bone" is the jaw of tus npua tsa neeg....txiv neej ces tua hneev, pojniam ces tuam tsaig npua...qhov no yog muab tus npua tsa neeg no tuam kom qaug es xob muaj tuag ntxiv lawm xwb.

thank you!!! intresting! is kind of like where they call the muam phauj tua cej (sp?) ?



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Re: Kicking the bone at the funeral door
« Reply #9 on: October 25, 2011, 12:11:51 PM »
On another note....if any of you want to search for family origin, these rituals can lead you to way....not all mong have this ritual...even within the same clan, some practice it and some do not.  i know that hers and vangs do them...but i am not sure about other xeem.  but not all vangs/her practice them either....and going back to searching for origins, the vangs who do it and my family (her) have been "neejtsa" for many many generations, going back to 1700s.  I am sure this ritual began from a single village, spreading to those who are close to them...

even with the "caiv txaj," some practice it and some don't....so it seems, that these rituals originated within those people who lived in very close proximity or those who are very closely related.




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Re: Kicking the bone at the funeral door
« Reply #10 on: February 20, 2012, 11:08:18 AM »
Sounds like something a new cult group would do.

A cult based on Christianity?



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Re: Kicking the bone at the funeral door
« Reply #11 on: March 16, 2012, 03:29:54 AM »
the "bone" is the jaw of tus npua tsa neeg....txiv neej ces tua hneev, pojniam ces tuam tsaig npua...qhov no yog muab tus npua tsa neeg no tuam kom qaug es xob muaj tuag ntxiv lawm xwb.

Can you explain these metaphors?

Very interesting.



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