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Koj Xaav Le Caag?
« on: October 05, 2011, 12:25:19 PM »
Txawm kuv ruam los koj twb ntse. Txawm kuv tsi pum los koj twb paub. Txawm kuv has txhum los koj zaam txim. Txawm peb sis caav sis tshe taag los tsi txhob tig nyag fee nyag. Tig rov lug sis has sis paab sis khu kom peb Moob nyob vaam meej zoo le luas tej. Koj xaav le caag?




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Re: Koj Xaav Le Caag?
« Reply #1 on: October 05, 2011, 01:19:37 PM »
Hmoob never think  like that dear



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Re: Koj Xaav Le Caag?
« Reply #2 on: October 05, 2011, 01:32:52 PM »
Hmoob never think  like that dear

Moob tsi xaav le ntawm los koj kuv peb twb xaav ne yog ua caag es mej ho tsi tig lug peb sis has mas yuad?





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Re: Koj Xaav Le Caag?
« Reply #3 on: October 05, 2011, 02:29:42 PM »
When hmoob learn how to accommodate n collaborate each other without the thought of bias n prejudice because their differences of last name n beliefs then we will talk about what stated above, otherwise I won't waste my time :)



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Re: Koj Xaav Le Caag?
« Reply #4 on: October 05, 2011, 04:10:52 PM »
When hmoob learn how to accommodate n collaborate each other without the thought of bias n prejudice because their differences of last name n beliefs then we will talk about what stated above, otherwise I won't waste my time :)

Lov, koj xaav le ko. Tsi txhob xaav le ko mas, npawg. I could be wrong tab sis mas kuv xaav tas qhov koj has ko ces yog ib qho ntawm cov teeb meem kws peb tsi sis paab sis khu es nyag fee nyag tag. Koj ua kuv tsi saib, kuv ua koj tsi khes ces yog tej koj has ko tag taam sim nuav na. Qhov qub yog qhov twg zoo, peb khaws ca es siv txuas ntxiv moog, tab sis mas yog qhov tsi zoo, peb muab tso pov tseg txhob siv lawm. Peb yog ib co hluas kws to taub txug this generation, peb yuav tsum tsi txhob coj hab ua le cov laug lawm. Peb nyob tsua tam tshab lawm, peb yuav tsum pauv peb qhov leadership moog tsua qhov tshab mas peb txha vaam meej taug hos.



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Re: Koj Xaav Le Caag?
« Reply #5 on: October 05, 2011, 05:56:16 PM »
Tshuav ntev peb les yoog tau.  Sij hawm xwb txhaj les yuav qhas tau



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Re: Koj Xaav Le Caag?
« Reply #6 on: October 05, 2011, 06:25:00 PM »
Lov, koj xaav le ko. Tsi txhob xaav le ko mas, npawg. I could be wrong tab sis mas kuv xaav tas qhov koj has ko ces yog ib qho ntawm cov teeb meem kws peb tsi sis paab sis khu es nyag fee nyag tag. Koj ua kuv tsi saib, kuv ua koj tsi khes ces yog tej koj has ko tag taam sim nuav na. Qhov qub yog qhov twg zoo, peb khaws ca es siv txuas ntxiv moog, tab sis mas yog qhov tsi zoo, peb muab tso pov tseg txhob siv lawm. Peb yog ib co hluas kws to taub txug this generation, peb yuav tsum tsi txhob coj hab ua le cov laug lawm. Peb nyob tsua tam tshab lawm, peb yuav tsum pauv peb qhov leadership moog tsua qhov tshab mas peb txha vaam meej taug hos.



You are right but you need to assess the Hmong problem first.  What you stated above....I believe all the Hmong leaders in the past has put their hearts and souls to it and tried to bring the Hmong together but the problem is not that we don't like to work together.  The hmong people are a very unique and loyal ethnic but there is something about the Hmong that keep deviding and led to segregated them into smaller sub-group.

Instead of look into the future...we need to assess and look in the past...what have gone/done wrong with the Hmong tradition or culture?  Once we figured out the problem and resolve whatever the disease that keep pushing the Hmong backward in term of cooperation, civilization, unity, and democracy among the Hmong peole--then we can start implementing what is needed and what will benefit the Hmong socially, economically, and politically.

Just personal opinion and observation.   :)



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Re: Koj Xaav Le Caag?
« Reply #7 on: October 14, 2011, 07:38:58 AM »
You are right but you need to assess the Hmong problem first.  What you stated above....I believe all the Hmong leaders in the past has put their hearts and souls to it and tried to bring the Hmong together but the problem is not that we don't like to work together.  The hmong people are a very unique and loyal ethnic but there is something about the Hmong that keep deviding and led to segregated them into smaller sub-group.

Instead of look into the future...we need to assess and look in the past...what have gone/done wrong with the Hmong tradition or culture?  Once we figured out the problem and resolve whatever the disease that keep pushing the Hmong backward in term of cooperation, civilization, unity, and democracy among the Hmong peole--then we can start implementing what is needed and what will benefit the Hmong socially, economically, and politically.

Just personal opinion and observation.   :)


Yeah, yog le koj has mas, npawg,  yog yuav saib rov moog rau yaav taag lug na. Yog le ntawd ces, my personal opinion, peb tsi txhob khu lawm. Ca peb haiv neeg Moob nyob hab ua ywj sab le kws nwg xaav ua vim puab ua los peb tsi paab, peb ua los puab tsi khes ces ca nyob le nuav moog es saib yuav zoo le caag lawm yaav tom ntej mas.




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Re: Koj Xaav Le Caag?
« Reply #8 on: October 14, 2011, 10:33:15 AM »
Koj tham txog hmoob qhov teebmeem nws tsi yoojyim vim hmoob qhov teebmeem tsi koom siab muaj puag thaum ntuj tsim teb raug los lawm. Best example, every race muaj teb chaws nyob even lawv liab qab xwb tabsi for hmoob vim li cas lawv tsi muaj teb chaw thiab khiav mus txog twg los lwm haiv neeg tsi nyiam li. ::)

Definitely there is something in Hmong and about the Hmong that we Hmong need to know :). Yog peb saib xyuas zoo ces peb thiaj li paub kho peb tus kheej kom xws teb xws chaw thiaj li zoo li lwm tus.  Otherwise lawv sib koom tes muab hmoob rhuav tshem mus xwb even hmoob xwb los hmoob yeej tuas hmoob thiab sib ntxub hmoob heev li lawm thiab. To be honest with you "I love my Hmong people" but that's one thing I don't understand and from time to time in my mind keep pondering about Hmong "why we are this way?".  Either we Hmong is doing the right thing/way or we Hmong are WRONG from the beginning of time ::)


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Re: Koj Xaav Le Caag?
« Reply #9 on: October 21, 2011, 12:33:52 PM »
love2kiss,  has tau yoojyim tabsi coj tsi yoojyim.  kuv ntseeg has tas yog muaj ib qhov tragic event kws tsaug peb cov moob mas txhas le ua rua peb mob sab hab peb txhas xaav lug koom ua ib lub sab.  yog tsi muaj tej xwmtxheej ces ntshe peb nyiag yuav nyob nyag ib leeg yuav tsi mob sab txug ib leeg.  tam nuav moob tseem tsi mob sab txug moob npaum le puag thaum ub.  peb tuaj nyob tebchaw nuav, peb moog khwv noj khwv haus twb tsi khoom moog koom tej txheeb ze tej kev noj haus.  tug saab nraus ces twb tsi has le lawm.  this society is truely indvidualistic due to our circumstance.  it's not like in our old country where we can go farming but we still find time to visit family and friends.



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Re: Koj Xaav Le Caag?
« Reply #10 on: October 21, 2011, 11:47:10 PM »
pebh hmoob txawj tham xwb tsis txawj mloog... vim hais tias nyia qhuas nyia txuj ke haj le yog xwb...



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Re: Koj Xaav Le Caag?
« Reply #11 on: October 25, 2011, 12:16:46 PM »
love2kiss,  has tau yoojyim tabsi coj tsi yoojyim.  kuv ntseeg has tas yog muaj ib qhov tragic event kws tsaug peb cov moob mas txhas le ua rua peb mob sab hab peb txhas xaav lug koom ua ib lub sab.  yog tsi muaj tej xwmtxheej ces ntshe peb nyiag yuav nyob nyag ib leeg yuav tsi mob sab txug ib leeg.  tam nuav moob tseem tsi mob sab txug moob npaum le puag thaum ub.  peb tuaj nyob tebchaw nuav, peb moog khwv noj khwv haus twb tsi khoom moog koom tej txheeb ze tej kev noj haus.  tug saab nraus ces twb tsi has le lawm.  this society is truely indvidualistic due to our circumstance.  it's not like in our old country where we can go farming but we still find time to visit family and friends.

Yog, Renaissance, koj has yog lawm ntaag. Ca thaum twg kom peb ib leeg muaj teeb meem luas saib tsi taug tug ntawd lawm mas peb txha le tig rov lug sis koom sab sis sau ua paab ua pawg. Peb cov Moob ib txwm yeej tsi prepare in advance hlo le. Yeej ca txug tsua thaum kws txob/mob twg ces maam khawb/khu twg xwb. Thaum zoo le ntawd ces yeej zoo kawg hab tab sis mas lig zog lawm na.


pebh hmoob txawj tham xwb tsis txawj mloog... vim hais tias nyia qhuas nyia txuj ke haj le yog xwb...

Peb cov Moob mas nyam has xwb tsi ua. Lug puv ncauj es laam thaam xwb os yeej tsi nqeg teg kag le.




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« Reply #12 on: October 25, 2011, 01:57:41 PM »
npawg, yog muab peb moob pev rua society tebchaw nuav, peb moob kev coj noj coj ua (culture and values) yeej zoo dlua.  yog muaj ib tug qhua kws tuaj rua huv yug tsev, txawm yug tsi paub nwg hlo le lod, nwg yeej tau ib paa dle hau.  txawm tug qhua tuaj pw huv yug tsev es rov moog lawm lod, yog nwg tsi tau ib yaam dlaabtsi los nwg tub tau ib pob su moog noj taug kev.  has txug kaab tshoob kev kug los, kuv yeej pum tas peb cov laug puag thaum ub yeej si paab si hlub.  society tebchaw nuav, koj rua moog koom lub funeral service xwb.  taag ntawd ces taag le lawm. 

yog has tas peb tsi qha peb tej kev hlub rua peb cov mivnyuas tebchaw nuav, peb moob yuav haj yam yuav tsi txawj si hlub. 



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« Reply #13 on: October 26, 2011, 12:55:06 PM »
npawg, yog muab peb moob pev rua society tebchaw nuav, peb moob kev coj noj coj ua (culture and values) yeej zoo dlua.  yog muaj ib tug qhua kws tuaj rua huv yug tsev, txawm yug tsi paub nwg hlo le lod, nwg yeej tau ib paa dle hau.  txawm tug qhua tuaj pw huv yug tsev es rov moog lawm lod, yog nwg tsi tau ib yaam dlaabtsi los nwg tub tau ib pob su moog noj taug kev.  has txug kaab tshoob kev kug los, kuv yeej pum tas peb cov laug puag thaum ub yeej si paab si hlub.  society tebchaw nuav, koj rua moog koom lub funeral service xwb.  taag ntawd ces taag le lawm. 

yog has tas peb tsi qha peb tej kev hlub rua peb cov mivnyuas tebchaw nuav, peb moob yuav haj yam yuav tsi txawj si hlub. 

Yeah, yog tag, yog le koj has tag, npawg. Yog peb tsi qha tsua peb cov miv nyuas ces puab yuav coj le Asmeskas le lawm xwb os.





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