OWS (Occupy Wall Street)... what do these people really want?

[Hung_Low]

What is their ultimate goal?
Ask any of them and they don't know what it is... It's just that they're mad at the rich getting richer and greed in America.

Ask about what the group hope to accomplish and this is what one of the organizer has to say:

“We’re really not sure what change we’re expecting to see,” Taylor Tisdale said Tuesday. “We’re standing in solidarity with our brothers and sisters in New York. We’re just standing behind them with all they’re doing, and we’re just waiting to see what happens.”... “We’re the 99 percent, and we have to have a protest to make anyone listen. I don’t think it should be that way,” she continue.


Why bother to have a protest if you don't know what you're protesting about or hoping to accomplish...

[Evil_K_Man]

To raise awareness even though it may not result in immediate actions...

[Hung_Low]

To raise awareness even though it may not result in immediate actions...

What awareness... everyone knows the rich got richer and the poor got poorer. And everybody have greed... not just the rich and people on Wall Street. It's the fuel that drives everyone's goal...

[Evil_K_Man]

What awareness... everyone knows the rich got richer and the poor got poorer. And everybody have greed... not just the rich and people on Wall Street. It's the fuel that drives everyone's goal...

Apparently not enough...

[nightrider]

Isn't it obvious where folks are gathering and protesting? He/she shouldn't had been the spokes person. Like you say, doesn't even know what people are doing there for.

[LeeV18]

This video pretty much explains it...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8lUY9jS8oQ

[F-16]

These low life needs to go get real jobs instead of blaming WS.

[Hung_Low]

these Hmong house-negros won't understand what you're saying. they think they're rich and white. they're not even close to being middle class 

speaking for yourself 

[Evil_K_Man]

Well said changm24...

Here's a simple formula I learned awhile back

Freedom = Choice
Choice = Money
thus Freedom=Money

From the above we can infer that more money = more freedom.  The rich found this out quickly, while the rest of us are still catching up.

[nightrider]

these Hmong house-negros won't understand what you're saying. they think they're rich and white. they're not even close to being middle class 

That's just how most Hmong people are. lol

And well said, Changm24. What people needs to do next is boycott health insurance.

[evil-in-deed]

the occupy wall street party and the tea party need to understand that they are fighting for the same thing... they are just two sides of the same coin... the government is taking money from the people and giving it to the wealthy; the wealthy is controlling the government... there are only very few wealthy people and politicians that are still working for a better america...

one party is fighting the government while the other is fighting the wealthy... yet they dont know they have the same problem...

ps... vote RON PAUL... he can reset all this...

 

[evil-in-deed]

You know what? I don't consider myself a Democrat but have always leaned more to that side and have therefore generally voted Democratic...a nd also because I simply CANNOT stand the Republicans. However, after seeing how Obama really doesn't have a spine and cannot seem to grow one either...you know, Ron Paul is looking MUCH more appealing. If he actually makes it as the Republican presidential candidate, I just may vote for him.

And yes, the Tea Party and the Wall Street protestors have some things in common...once upon a time, that is (back when the Tea Party first started anyway). But the problem with the Tea Party nowadays is that it's been overtaken by the Republican side, by corporate people like the Koch brothers, and by mainstream media. It's no longer a true movement of the people.

My biggest fear with the Wall Street Protests is that the same thing is going to happen--that the Democrats will embrace it as part of "theirs" and that any wealthy people who "donate" to the cause will start to influence it and change it into something it's not. I really hope that doesn't happen.

ill be the first to say it... obama is starting to look more and more like bush... i do hope we do not go to war with iran... itll just be a repeat of iraq...

ron paul is different from the rest of the so called republicans... ive always wonder why the republicans contradict themselves so much until i heard ron paul talk... and ron paul is probably the only true conservative republican in that party because he actually want to have less government unlike the other republicans that go into office and increase government control... so even if RON PAUL doesnt get on the ballot, ill just write his name in as my candidate because this is the only way to let the government and wealthy people know that my options are not limited to just what they give me... i encourage everyone to do the same...

the tea party had the same problems as the occupy wall street have now... no reliable leadership...

so vote ron paul to hit the reset button on america...

[HmongKnight]

Here's a good example; when the rich gets bankrupt, they get bail out money from the Fed. But when the poor gets bankrupt, they end up homeless. So are you the 99% that will end up homeless or the 1% that gets bail out all the time?

[jackhergh]

Some of you are missing the point. As someone wrote somewhere, "It's not about being envious of the wealthy. It's wanting the 99% to have equal say on policy that the top 1% can purchase."

I don't think enough people really understand the problem with how our economy is extremely skewed in favor of the wealthy and how it has led to the crisis our country is currently in. Are people being lazy? Sure, some of them are. But that doesn't explain why unemployment rates are high, why homes are being foreclosed on all across the country, why jobs are taken overseas, or any of the other serious problems facing this country.

The more power that big corporations and the very wealthy have, the stronger of a hold they have on our government. The truth is our government and even our courts are not working for us, the common person.

The Citizens United case is an example of this. I mean, how can a corporation be considered a "real person" and the millions and billions of dollars that corporations put towards buying influence in Washington be considered "freedom of speech?" Corporations don't have birth and death certificates, right? It's ridiculous that they can actually be considered "human" with the same right as you and I to freedom of speech. So now big corporations can throw as much money into the hands of politicians to influence their decisions on policies that affect the economy and affect all of us.

The corporate elite can afford to buy votes in Washington and send their lobbyists there, but just because we can't afford to do the same doesn't mean that our voices shouldn't count. Occupy Wall Street and the other protests springing up in other cities are starting to draw attention to the real problem, one that the corporate elite, politicians, and mainstream media would rather you not know about.

The best video to watch to get a better understanding of the situation would be the one below. It gives good background information on the problem and sets 4 clear demands.

I'm honestly glad this Occupy Wall Street movement is gaining much attention. For over three decades the government and Wall Street has been buddies and promoting supply-side economic policies that only benefit the rich. We were told that the wealth would trickle down, yet income disparity between the rich and the rest of America has never been greater. Since Reagan real wages for the middle class has stagnant while the wealthy saw their income skyrocketed.

It's true that OWS doesn't seem to have a clear focus, but that's because it's a grassroots movement made up of many different people all with their own grievances. Some are sick of the high unemployment while businesses continue to sit on hundreds of billions of dollar and refusing to hire. Others are angry that banks got government bailout while millions of ordinary Americans lost their homes. You also have students protesting the large student debts they can't pay back because they graduate in a horrible job market caused by Wall Street. And some are there because of the high income inequality and the growing influence of business lobbyists, which they attributed to corporate greed. These folks aren't a homogenous group, but they all wanted businesses to be held accountable for this financial mess.

On another note, Ron Paul will never be a serious presidential candidate. Dude is just too extreme in his views. He really should retire as he seems to be living in a different time than the rest of America.

[evil-in-deed]

I'm just somewhat starting to consider Ron Paul but I don't know if I can bring myself to vote for him yet. I like his views on big corporations, the wealthy, auditing the federal reserve, and bringing the troops home. And I like that he seems to speak his mind and doesn't act as much like a talking mouthpiece for others. He seems genuine and not like the other Republicans. But his other views? I don't like them so much (education, for example). So I guess it's a matter of prioritizing and deciding what my top issues are and aligning them with the candidate who best fits them.

Having no reliable leader is not necessarily a bad thing or a problem for Occupy Wall Street. If someone or a party or group of people start serving as spokesperson, it'll likely head down the wrong road I think. It just seems inevitable. What's great about the Occupy Wall Street protests right now is that there is no one leader steering everything. At this point, there is no "hidden agenda;" it is the people's voices and the people's protests--in its sincerest form popping up all over the country.

that's what so great about ron paul... i too hate his views on some subjects, but the difference with him and all the clowns in DC is that he will not enforce his views onto you... ron paul will let the states decide for themselves on what's good for themselves... and that's what's important... that's what we've always needed...

example... ron paul is against gay marriages, but if a state want's to legalize gay marriage... then ron paul will allow it... ron paul wont force all states to legalize nor ban it...

and whats best about this is that ron paul's been saying this since 1988(or longer)... he's always held the same views and the most consistence voting record... that goes pretty far for a politician...

this is what i feel that a lot of people are not understanding about ron paul... RON PAUL DOES NOT FORCE PEOPLE TO FOLLOW HIS VIEWS...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ws7Zp41fByE&feature=related

mofos laughed at ron paul... but ron paul quickly shuts them up...

here's more videos if you or anyone is interested...

ron paul in 2008 gop debate... gop banned his answer...
www.youtube.com/watch?v=S17alBWtWfU

ron paul in 1988 holding the same views... shutting people up...
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vi1nxu-Sy-w&feature=related

ron paul in banned interview... his views on all issues in america... 1/6...
www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6a9549ZeqQ   <--- best one to learn more on his views...

we need him in the white house before his time is up... the best thing about reseting america is so that we can rebuild it... because we all know that america is too messed up right now...

VOTE FOR FREEDOM OF CHOICE... VOTE FOR RON PAUL...

On another note, Ron Paul will never be a serious presidential candidate. Dude is just too extreme in his views. He really should retire as he seems to be living in a different time than the rest of America.

other way around... in ron paul's time, his views were not needed because america was doing fine... but now we need his views...

his only extremism is on freedom of choice...