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Ron Paul 1 TRILLION DOLLAR Cut Proposal
« on: October 18, 2011, 10:22:19 AM »
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1011/66114.html

This guy is great and nuts!  Maybe we need somebody like him.  He's crazy.

I am willing to agree with his agenda if he allows the piercing of the corporation.  Then I have no qualms...We need to stop this crap where I can screw up the world and only the corporation will die as the martyr.  It's stupid.

Case in point, if you screw up the public you get fined up the arse.  Look up JnJ, Merck, Pfizer fines, etc...



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Re: Ron Paul 1 TRILLION DOLLAR Cut Proposal
« Reply #1 on: October 18, 2011, 05:10:37 PM »
If he's not the presidential candidate in 2012, then I'm not voting.
  More people should follow your lead.  O0



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Re: Ron Paul 1 TRILLION DOLLAR Cut Proposal
« Reply #2 on: October 18, 2011, 06:40:17 PM »

i thought the salary of the president has been over $1M per year, has that changed back to $400k?

at $39k per year, i'm sure you're get the brightest to lead the nation :D

i rather go for that flat tax rate of 9% for everyone, both people and corporations :)
the lower the tax rate, the more money i keep in my pockets!
i'm a better money manager of my own money than those in government.



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Re: Ron Paul 1 TRILLION DOLLAR Cut Proposal
« Reply #3 on: October 18, 2011, 06:45:42 PM »
Flat tax rate does not work.  You use more of the infrastructure you should pay more of it.



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Re: Ron Paul 1 TRILLION DOLLAR Cut Proposal
« Reply #4 on: October 18, 2011, 08:19:33 PM »
 :2funny: this guy can't be serious. What a joke. I mean, look at this.

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Paul would also make far-reaching changes to federal tax policy, reducing the top corporate income tax rate to 15 percent, eliminating capital gains and dividends taxes and allowing for repatriation of overseas capital without tax penalties. All tax cuts enacted under former President George W. Bush would be extended.

Abolish capital gains and dividends taxes and reducing corporate income tax?  :2funny: As if the rich aren't rich enough, let's just eliminate practically all their tax obligations so they can stash it all away while the middle class and the poor continue to suffer. Yeah, great idea.

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So I only scan through the first time but looking at the article again it's even more ridiculous than I first though. Who needs the Department of Energy or the Food and Drug Administration right? Even Dodd-Frank should be repeal, the very bill we enacted because of the mess the financial industry caused. duck regulations and just let businesses do what it want because we all know they have the public interest at heart, right Paul? Who cares if we still have massive unemployment problems. We need more cut. Let's also leave Medicaid, children's health insurance, and even food stamp to the states so they can axe those programs to cover budget shortfall. Never mind the fact that the federal government had to stepped in in the first place because states didn't care about it. But social security is fine of course. Your Republican base would be furious if that's cut.

And the Bush tax cuts? let's extend it. We all know tax cuts are great during bad economy times.

So what's scarier? Ron Paul's ideas or the folks who actually thought his ideas are good?


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Re: Ron Paul 1 TRILLION DOLLAR Cut Proposal
« Reply #5 on: October 18, 2011, 11:40:52 PM »
Jack,

Hence I said he's nuts and crazy and maybe his idea might work...liberal s failed...conse rvatives failed...It's time to throw a hail marry.   ;D ;D ;D  No system is the best system - Bruce Lee.  I know totally taken out of context but I thought it sounded good for a moment.

Did I mention he said to redistribute wealth too.  I kid.



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Re: Ron Paul 1 TRILLION DOLLAR Cut Proposal
« Reply #6 on: October 19, 2011, 10:15:19 AM »
Did I mention he said to redistribute wealth too.  I kid.

So did your lord and savior Jesus Christ but I don't see any of you conservative Christians jumping on that bandwagon.

Ron Paul is a candidate with a few good ideas publicly. His lesser known policy ideas are ridiculously behind the times and dangerous (as jack mentioned). This man believes that the free market would've freed the slaves and that the FEDs shouldn't have done anything about slavery in the South.

The fact that anyone's even associated with the Tea Party makes me sick, let alone be one of it's leaders.



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Re: Ron Paul 1 TRILLION DOLLAR Cut Proposal
« Reply #7 on: October 19, 2011, 06:32:03 PM »
So did your lord and savior Jesus Christ but I don't see any of you conservative Christians jumping on that bandwagon.

Ron Paul is a candidate with a few good ideas publicly. His lesser known policy ideas are ridiculously behind the times and dangerous (as jack mentioned). This man believes that the free market would've freed the slaves and that the FEDs shouldn't have done anything about slavery in the South.

The fact that anyone's even associated with the Tea Party makes me sick, let alone be one of it's leaders.

Off topic and speaking the obvious.  What's new about VangMK?



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Re: Ron Paul 1 TRILLION DOLLAR Cut Proposal
« Reply #8 on: October 20, 2011, 01:47:54 AM »
Flat tax rate does not work.  You use more of the infrastructure you should pay more of it.

why should i work harder, if i'm just paying more?

user pay is different than same tax rate for everyone. say if you go through the toll road more often then you would pay more, that's user pay...which is a fair system.

flat tax is more like equal work gets equal pay.



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Re: Ron Paul 1 TRILLION DOLLAR Cut Proposal
« Reply #9 on: October 20, 2011, 03:47:45 AM »
The rich should pay more taxes, not because they benefit more from society (which they do) but simply because they can afford to pay more.

Also, a true flat tax system is not possible simply because you need to allow deductions and exemptions like for those below poverty level, thus making it only flat in name. Some flat tax proposals like the one by Ron Paul only ask for a flat percentage on salary but not capital gains and dividends, which is of course ridiculous as the rich receive a large portion of their income from that. I suppose a flat tax with limited deductions would be most fair if it includes all types of income. Then again you still have the issue of payroll tax and sales tax which hit the poor harder than the rich so it'll never be truly fair.

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why should i work harder, if i'm just paying more?

This argument is just stupid. People will work harder because they will still take home more at the end of the day. Seriously, we already have a progressive tax system and it doesn't stop folks from working harder to earn more. Remember we used to have tax rate in the 90s at one point. A little higher tax is not gonna dissuade anyone.



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Re: Ron Paul 1 TRILLION DOLLAR Cut Proposal
« Reply #10 on: October 20, 2011, 10:21:28 AM »
He has my vote.  Government is too big.



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Re: Ron Paul 1 TRILLION DOLLAR Cut Proposal
« Reply #11 on: October 21, 2011, 01:53:46 PM »
Wishful thinking.....b ase salary was just raised from $200,000 to $400,000 recently.  However, this is just base as they get  a good size amount for personal expense and travel....not to mention the other bonuses. ;D

i thought the salary of the president has been over $1M per year, has that changed back to $400k?

at $39k per year, i'm sure you're get the brightest to lead the nation :D

i rather go for that flat tax rate of 9% for everyone, both people and corporations :)
the lower the tax rate, the more money i keep in my pockets!
i'm a better money manager of my own money than those in government.



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Re: Ron Paul 1 TRILLION DOLLAR Cut Proposal
« Reply #12 on: October 21, 2011, 02:11:15 PM »
Gosh, I LOVE some of Ron Paul's ideas but then I really HATE some of his ideas too.

Hence, he's CRAZY and potentially GREAT.  Dude...sometim e it takes a foolishman to create the world biggest software company - apple...or a foolish man to fix America.



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Re: Ron Paul 1 TRILLION DOLLAR Cut Proposal
« Reply #13 on: October 24, 2011, 11:48:29 PM »
so the lazy assess can sleep all days, and pays nothing?
ever seen animal farm?....

you need to work some over time, maybe you'll know?

why not tax at gross and not at net, so no loopholes for anyone?



The rich should pay more taxes, not because they benefit more from society (which they do) but simply because they can afford to pay more.

Also, a true flat tax system is not possible simply because you need to allow deductions and exemptions like for those below poverty level, thus making it only flat in name. Some flat tax proposals like the one by Ron Paul only ask for a flat percentage on salary but not capital gains and dividends, which is of course ridiculous as the rich receive a large portion of their income from that. I suppose a flat tax with limited deductions would be most fair if it includes all types of income. Then again you still have the issue of payroll tax and sales tax which hit the poor harder than the rich so it'll never be truly fair.

This argument is just stupid. People will work harder because they will still take home more at the end of the day. Seriously, we already have a progressive tax system and it doesn't stop folks from working harder to earn more. Remember we used to have tax rate in the 90s at one point. A little higher tax is not gonna dissuade anyone.



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Re: Ron Paul 1 TRILLION DOLLAR Cut Proposal
« Reply #14 on: October 25, 2011, 11:35:28 AM »
so the lazy assess can sleep all days, and pays nothing?
ever seen animal farm?....

you need to work some over time, maybe you'll know?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man


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why not tax at gross and not at net, so no loopholes for anyone?


What?



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