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Saddam and Bin Laden were U.S. allies or U.S.-trained. Turned out, they turned their backs against the U.S., so Americans had to take them down. Now, Karzai seems to be heading that direction. I think Karzai is making a mistake saying that after benefiting from the U.S. military over there.

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ISLAMABAD (Reuters) - Afghanistan would support Pakistan in case of military conflict between Pakistan and the United States, Afghan President Hamid Karzai said in an interview to a private Pakistani TV channel broadcast on Saturday.


Karzai.

The remarks were in sharp contrast to recent tension between the two neighbors over cross-border raids, and Afghan accusations that Pakistan was involved in killing the chief Afghan peace envoy, former Afghan president Burhanuddin Rabbani, by a suicide bomber on September 20.

"God forbid, If ever there is a war between Pakistan and America, Afghanistan will side with Pakistan," he said in the interview to Geo television.

"If Pakistan is attacked and if the people of Pakistan needs Afghanistan's help, Afghanistan will be there with you."

http://news.yahoo.com/afghanistan-back-pakistan-wars-u-karzai-023316217.html



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Saddam and Bin Laden were U.S. allies or U.S.-trained. Turned out, they turned their backs against the U.S., so Americans had to take them down. Now, Karzai seems to be heading that direction. I think Karzai is making a mistake saying that after benefiting from the U.S. military over there.

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ISLAMABAD (Reuters) - Afghanistan would support Pakistan in case of military conflict between Pakistan and the United States, Afghan President Hamid Karzai said in an interview to a private Pakistani TV channel broadcast on Saturday.


Karzai.

The remarks were in sharp contrast to recent tension between the two neighbors over cross-border raids, and Afghan accusations that Pakistan was involved in killing the chief Afghan peace envoy, former Afghan president Burhanuddin Rabbani, by a suicide bomber on September 20.

"God forbid, If ever there is a war between Pakistan and America, Afghanistan will side with Pakistan," he said in the interview to Geo television.

"If Pakistan is attacked and if the people of Pakistan needs Afghanistan's help, Afghanistan will be there with you."

http://news.yahoo.com/afghanistan-back-pakistan-wars-u-karzai-023316217.html


We don't have to go that far. Even if Karzai had Afghanistan developed and democracy is looking good in Afghanistan, the U.S. will invade or have someone/people or some country invade Afghanistan. The U.S. has a history of doing this since they became a world power. If no one has no clue as to what I am talking about...a history on the U.S. and Guatemala in the 50s would be a good start. That was the turning point in the young Che Guevara's life when he was completely convinced that the United States is the most evil and greatest disease in the world and he dedicated his life to fighting the U.S. to his very last breath.


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We don't have to go that far. Even if Karzai had Afghanistan developed and democracy is looking good in Afghanistan, the U.S. will invade or have someone/people or some country invade Afghanistan. The U.S. has a history of doing this since they became a world power. If no one has no clue as to what I am talking about...a history on the U.S. and Guatemala in the 50s would be a good start. That was the turning point in the young Che Guevara's life when he was completely convinced that the United States is the most evil and greatest disease in the world and he dedicated his life to fighting the U.S. to his very last breath.

Possibly. You can't mess with the U.S. and expect to get away with it. And the U.S. may use some foreign country or perhaps make it a reason not to pull out troops now.

I think Karzai was also mad after Wikileaks let leak some info about the U.S. chuckling that Karzai wasn't that good of a leader?




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Possibly. You can't mess with the U.S. and expect to get away with it. And the U.S. may use some foreign country or perhaps make it a reason not to pull out troops now.

I think Karzai was also mad after Wikileaks let leak some info about the U.S. chuckling that Karzai wasn't that good of a leader?


The U.S. pretty much made the dictator Fulgencio Batista leader of Cuba because he's a puppet that the U.S. can control and manipulates at whims. When he became so unpopular with the Cubans, the U.S. had to let him go. The U.S. even supported Fidel Castro for awhile because they thought they could control him like Batista and just about every leader in Latin America. The U.S. were shocked that for the first time in their world power history some man from a backward country and in their hemisphere even has the nerve to defy them.

The U.S. government is pissed off at Cuba to this very day and still has an embargo on them not because Cuba is some communist or demonic country...but Cuba refused to be the United States' b!tch.



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The U.S. pretty much made the dictator Fulgencio Batista leader of Cuba because he's a puppet that the U.S. can control and manipulates at whims. When he became so unpopular with the Cubans, the U.S. had to let him go. The U.S. even supported Fidel Castro for awhile because they thought they could control him like Batista and just about every leader in Latin America. The U.S. were shocked that for the first time in their world power history some man from a backward country and in their hemisphere even has the nerve to defy them.

The U.S. government is pissed off at Cuba to this very day and still has an embargo on them not because Cuba is some communist or demonic country...but Cuba refused to be the United States' b!tch.

The U.S. is very resourceful and smart to use locals against locals. That way, American troops can handle other matters where they are more needed.  But perhaps the issue is gaining permanent loyalty from those foreign leaders. Once the U.S. has given them power, there's no idea what they would or could do back to the U.S. And that's one thing I've been saying about the U.S. trying to organize or appease the Middle East. Diversity respect isn't well-controlled in the U.S.--where it's most debated and tolerated (not perfect but more tolerated than in other countries except for Canada and Australia). How do we expect countries where there are no constitutional protections for even their own people to be loyal to a foreign leader?


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The U.S. is very resourceful and smart to use locals against locals. That way, American troops can handle other matters where they are more needed.  But perhaps the issue is gaining permanent loyalty from those foreign leaders. Once the U.S. has given them power, there's no idea what they would or could do back to the U.S. And that's one thing I've been saying about the U.S. trying to organize or appease the Middle East. Diversity respect isn't well-controlled in the U.S.--where it's most debated and tolerated (not perfect but more tolerated than in other countries except for Canada and Australia). How do we expect countries where there are no constitutional protections for even their own people to be loyal to a foreign leader?

And adding to that, of course every country also uses their own people against each other for their own country's elites (the rich/ruling class) interest, but the United States is the true master at that game. If the leaders of China is envious of the United States, it's not or not so much because of the U.S. riches and abundance, but how the U.S. control their people to create such wealth.


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america has been doing for many years for so many countries...
why would it not do to this guy/country?

911 was the first time something physically hit america and scare the shi.t out of its citizens. fear is a great thing to have in determination of war/struggle outcomes.

no war has been fought on american soil yet, perhaps the next one will be? :D
where would some of you go thouh? :D :D


Saddam and Bin Laden were U.S. allies or U.S.-trained. Turned out, they turned their backs against the U.S., so Americans had to take them down. Now, Karzai seems to be heading that direction. I think Karzai is making a mistake saying that after benefiting from the U.S. military over there.

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ISLAMABAD (Reuters) - Afghanistan would support Pakistan in case of military conflict between Pakistan and the United States, Afghan President Hamid Karzai said in an interview to a private Pakistani TV channel broadcast on Saturday.


Karzai.

The remarks were in sharp contrast to recent tension between the two neighbors over cross-border raids, and Afghan accusations that Pakistan was involved in killing the chief Afghan peace envoy, former Afghan president Burhanuddin Rabbani, by a suicide bomber on September 20.

"God forbid, If ever there is a war between Pakistan and America, Afghanistan will side with Pakistan," he said in the interview to Geo television.

"If Pakistan is attacked and if the people of Pakistan needs Afghanistan's help, Afghanistan will be there with you."

http://news.yahoo.com/afghanistan-back-pakistan-wars-u-karzai-023316217.html



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I wouldn't want a war on U.S. soil.

america has been doing for many years for so many countries...
why would it not do to this guy/country?

911 was the first time something physically hit america and scare the shi.t out of its citizens. fear is a great thing to have in determination of war/struggle outcomes.

no war has been fought on american soil yet, perhaps the next one will be? :D
where would some of you go thouh? :D :D





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I wouldn't want a war on U.S. soil.


i don't think that will be options A, B, C, D...by the way those in offices are acting out their superiority mentalities.

ever push a cowardly cat/dog into a corner, or even a tiny squirrels for you hunters....??? ::)



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