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-shamanism
1.one of the oldest practice/religion
2.witch doctor

-culture/way of life
1.give much repspect to the elders
2.family stays close
3.tribes

-weddings:
1.when the girl is going to get married she gets lectured by her parents to be a good wife, obey their husband, and leave her family
2.the marriage event last for 3 days
3.they have negotiators
4.they have to pay by animals

-clothes designs

There's more to it, but I learn it in a Native American class.  


They made their way from northern china, to russia, crossing alaska to get to North America.  They hold closely to their roots and kept it the same for thousands of years before the Spanish/French/English came.


Native Americans were used as sex slave and got intermix with Spanish whom became Mexican.

So yes, Mexican, Native American and Hmong all came from the same lineage?


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Re: Hmong and Native Americans have so much in common...same lineage?
« Reply #1 on: November 16, 2011, 08:07:31 PM »
my GED prof said was native american and he said, i hate it when people call me asian, i'm not. we are different.



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Re: Hmong and Native Americans have so much in common...same lineage?
« Reply #2 on: November 18, 2011, 05:32:29 PM »
 ;D, the term native american is just a temporary term used by white settlers/french/spanish, they derive from the asian continent, therefor they're asian.  You can't use Indian, that's Christopher Columbus mistake thinking he reached India and called the people Indian.
my GED prof said was native american and he said, i hate it when people call me asian, i'm not. we are different.



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Re: Hmong and Native Americans have so much in common...same lineage?
« Reply #3 on: November 20, 2011, 08:15:26 PM »
The Hmongs have a story of two brothers who went hunting. One chased after a herd of deer across an ice bridge. When he was satisfied with the amount of meat he returned to the place where the bridge was to find that it was now a large body of water. He cried and cried unable to return to the other side.



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Re: Hmong and Native Americans have so much in common...same lineage?
« Reply #4 on: November 20, 2011, 08:30:53 PM »
I have always thought so as well.



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Re: Hmong and Native Americans have so much in common...same lineage?
« Reply #5 on: November 20, 2011, 10:39:58 PM »
A Hmong shaman told me she has visited the Native Americans and that the Native Americans practiced shamanism, too, and that, because of that, they were Hmong.

I didn't confront the shaman because I wanted to respect her and didn't want her to feel ignorant, especially when she claimed to also be psychic and a seer and clearvoyant.

Bottom line though is this: there are many people in the world who practice shamanism and charge bride prices and hold long weddings, etc. The African Ogani culture in Nigeria and some other parts of Africa are black but practice similar traditions to the Hmong.  Bride price, negotiators, spirit-calling ceremony to welcome the newborn and to name the newborn, etc.  Are they Hmong?  No.  

The cultures that do these things are mostly the cultures that are still very close to nature. The Hmong are not the only ones who are still close to nature. We know today that the Hmong are the groups in southern China to certain parts of Southeast Asia many who are now in the West.  We can't even find enough similarities in them to unite with them. How are we to claim the Native Americans as Hmong? They are Sioux, Iroquois, etc. Any of that Hmong? Is any of their words Hmong word? No.

We do not have enough commonality to be Native Americans and vice versa.  We can't say the few we know of are enough to make us Native Americans or make Native Americans Hmong. That's not enough.  And, FYI, the Native Americans do not buy into the theory that they migrated across the Bearing Strait. That theory was coined by the White Americans just so the Whites could say that this continent was never originally owned or inhabited by the Native Americans. That way, the White Americans would have more rights to make it theirs--like making everyone immigrants so that whoever is more powerful can take over. But the Native Americans don't agree that they came over from Asia. For them, the only place their ancestors have ever known since the beginning of time is this continent. And if you think more about this claim, you will agree with them. If they had crossed over from Asia, there would not have been so many of them at a time when technology wasn't that great yet. What is now Mexico and what is now Canada and what is now the United States were full of Native Americans in different tribes.




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Re: Hmong and Native Americans have so much in common...same lineage?
« Reply #6 on: November 21, 2011, 01:29:22 AM »
Shamanism was once a powerful practice with shamans all over the Earth. Shamanism is the study of energy. It's unfortunate it now is associated with primitive cultures. LMAO. Only If those "modern" cultures knew!!!

Hmong and native Americans and many other cultures look similar due to shamanism. But that is the end of that.



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Re: Hmong and Native Americans have so much in common...same lineage?
« Reply #7 on: November 21, 2011, 05:13:45 PM »
We all came from somewhere!  Who knows?  Let's say that it's true and that we all came from Africa.  Too bad Hmong became so much lighter and started wearing different clothes.  Tsk tsk, no more jungle leaves.



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Re: Hmong and Native Americans have so much in common...same lineage?
« Reply #8 on: November 21, 2011, 06:52:19 PM »
Shamanism was once a powerful practice with shamans all over the Earth. Shamanism is the study of energy. It's unfortunate it now is associated with primitive cultures. LMAO. Only If those "modern" cultures knew!!!

Hmong and native Americans and many other cultures look similar due to shamanism. But that is the end of that.

Yes, I agree. Just because we see one thing in common doesn't make us the same.



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Re: Hmong and Native Americans have so much in common...same lineage?
« Reply #9 on: November 21, 2011, 06:53:23 PM »
We all came from somewhere!  Who knows?  Let's say that it's true and that we all came from Africa.  Too bad Hmong became so much lighter and started wearing different clothes.  Tsk tsk, no more jungle leaves.

Jungle barks, too?




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Re: Hmong and Native Americans have so much in common...same lineage?
« Reply #10 on: November 22, 2011, 08:55:32 AM »
The most important thing you forgot to include:


- They LOVE casinos!



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Re: Hmong and Native Americans have so much in common...same lineage?
« Reply #11 on: November 22, 2011, 10:24:55 AM »
The most important thing you forgot to include:


- They LOVE casinos!

One is making money off the other one!



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Re: Hmong and Native Americans have so much in common...same lineage?
« Reply #12 on: November 22, 2011, 12:59:56 PM »
The most important thing you forgot to include:


- They LOVE casinos!

One is making money off the other one!

Both true!

There are Native American millionaires just because of the casinos though. Good thing? Yes.



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Re: Hmong and Native Americans have so much in common...same lineage?
« Reply #13 on: November 26, 2011, 06:27:50 PM »
Native Americans went into the Casinos business because they own their land and why not make money off from people who's coming into your own reservation land. Sit back and watch the money pour in.  Only a few Native American tribes are recognized by the government whom are paid monthly for life, where as the other who aren't recognize have to change their last name to Spanish names so they won't get deported. They have their own school and college for the adults.  On their  casino application they give priorities to Native American first before non-Native Americans.  My professor once said the Mexicans are crossing the border to U.S because the're just coming back home, their native land. 

Mexican means mixed people, but  technically they are Native Americans who got screw over by the Whites and Spanish, red/brown skin people.

Somewhere along the line there is probably a lost tribe where their seeds were cursed  to not ever have their own country?

Both true!

There are Native American millionaires just because of the casinos though. Good thing? Yes.



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Re: Hmong and Native Americans have so much in common...same lineage?
« Reply #14 on: November 26, 2011, 06:54:03 PM »
Native Americans went into the Casinos business because they own their land and why not make money off from people who's coming into your own reservation land. Sit back and watch the money pour in.  Only a few Native American tribes are recognized by the government whom are paid monthly for life, where as the other who aren't recognize have to change their last name to Spanish names so they won't get deported. They have their own school and college for the adults.  On their  casino application they give priorities to Native American first before non-Native Americans.  My professor once said the Mexicans are crossing the border to U.S because the're just coming back home, their native land. 

Mexican means mixed people, but  technically they are Native Americans who got screw over by the Whites and Spanish, red/brown skin people.

Somewhere along the line there is probably a lost tribe where their seeds were cursed  to not ever have their own country?


Your professor is full of it.  :idiot2:  One can make such arguments about any race and any country!!!



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