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Re: Did God created everything out of nothing?
« Reply #30 on: December 07, 2011, 05:06:01 PM »
God is infinite. Thus does not need a cause. Anything that began only needs a cause. God never began so no need a cause.

Because you said so?  How did you know?




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Re: Did God created everything out of nothing?
« Reply #31 on: December 07, 2011, 05:16:21 PM »
Because you said so?  How did you know?



Because all sciences points to a beginning - space, time, matter..etc. all came into existence at one point. so whatever that caused space, time, and everything into existence cannot be bound by it's dimension. This fits God 'eternal' and 'transcendent' existence perfectly.



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Re: Did God created everything out of nothing?
« Reply #32 on: December 07, 2011, 05:28:46 PM »
Because all sciences points to a beginning - space, time, matter..etc. all came into existence at one point. so whatever that caused space, time, and everything into existence cannot be bound by it's dimension. This fits God 'eternal' and 'transcendent' existence perfectly.

Has science locate a God and found God to have the properties you described such as God is infinity?



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Re: Did God created everything out of nothing?
« Reply #33 on: December 07, 2011, 06:04:02 PM »
Has science locate a God and found God to have the properties you described such as God is infinity?


You want to know if science has discovered if GOD is infinite - my question is, has science looked?



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Re: Did God created everything out of nothing?
« Reply #34 on: December 07, 2011, 06:46:27 PM »
Please be aware that there are 2 causation explanations here.

1. There is the initial condition like law of casaulity.
2. Personal agent caused.

My argument is a deductive argument. Not a scientific one. You are asking if science has found God with the property of infinity. Infinity doesn't exist in reality. So the very first caused that brought the universe into existence is not a scientific one. Why? Because there is no scientific explanation for it. So the explanation has to be #2 - a Personal agent caused. Since there is nothing, (no time, no space, matter, etc..) casually prior to the big bang, I cannot accounted for it's explanation in terms of a scientific one by the laws of nature. Since no laws can exist when nature does not exist, no laws apply before the big bang. Laws of nature such as (first law of thermodynamics) only apply once space and time already begin to exist. It does not govern prior. What you are doing using a scientific approach to God. I am using deductive arguments where the conclusion necessarily follows given that the premises are true.



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Re: Did God created everything out of nothing?
« Reply #35 on: December 15, 2011, 03:10:18 AM »
Dinosaurs bones are said to be 70+ millions years. Now show that a dog or cat bone last that long?

Can you match evidence for evidence that this LukeSkyWalker of yours is just as valid as a belief in Jesus as savoir, hmongperson? Can you name of a 2000+ year old book that speaks about him?
That's because dogs and cat didn't live during that time. DUH!!!!

I can name a 6 movies, as well as tons of books, magazines, etc... that says he is the "chosen" one and restores balance to the force. 



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Re: Did God created everything out of nothing?
« Reply #36 on: December 15, 2011, 03:11:41 AM »
You want to know if science has discovered if GOD is infinite - my question is, has science looked?

All science is is to locate God. The mission to the Moon is the locate God. Did they find him?



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Re: Did God created everything out of nothing?
« Reply #37 on: December 20, 2011, 11:54:21 AM »
yep he did, didn't he created homo's out of dirt?

No, he didn't. It was Lucy who fudged us up over in Genesis 6. There's a possibility that demons might of intervene in our DNA to cause damage to the world and ourselves by making giants. Moreover, if you read or checkout the city of Pompeii and other lustful cities, those came from the nature of Genesis 6. If you read the Egyptian in the Old Testaments, they performed witchcraft and able to do false miracles while Moses performed his miracles through the name of Yahweh. Do you remember that scene in the prince of egypt or the Ten Commandments? If you watch it, that's what they do which derived from Lucifer alone if you read the datas for its history. This is just a hypothesis only to which we could come into an agreement; however, God did not create homos but created us to be perfect until Lucy did this to our face.

God is like Batman, the hero while Lucy is the Joker.



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