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A Challenge for the Christians
« on: December 01, 2011, 04:54:13 AM »
Ok so God Can do anything, that's what makes God a God. So that means that he Can create someone stronger than him to be able to destroy him. Or it can mean that he can never make someone stronger than him because he is infinite so nothing can be stronger than him.

Ok so if he Can make someone stronger than him to destroy him, then he is not infinitely powerful thus he doesn't deserve the name God. If he can't make someone strong enough to kill him then he can't do Anything thus he doesnt deserve the name God because God is supposed to be able to do anything


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Re: A Challenge for the Christians
« Reply #1 on: December 01, 2011, 07:59:49 AM »
Ok so God Can do anything, that's what makes God a God. So that means that he Can create someone stronger than him to be able to destroy him. Or it can mean that he can never make someone stronger than him because he is infinite so nothing can be stronger than him.

Ok so if he Can make someone stronger than him to destroy him, then he is not infinitely powerful thus he doesn't deserve the name God. If he can't make someone strong enough to kill him then he can't do Anything thus he doesnt deserve the name God because God is supposed to be able to do anything


OMG… What is this, kindergarten talk? Don’t think too hard if this is the best you can do… You might hurt yourself.

If there’s a God, he’s beyond our human understanding. Whatever ideas you have regarding God is a construct of your own… For the REAL God exists beyond the plane of human intellect and is not knowable. These ideas you have such as “infinite power” don’t apply to him…. This is a human concept.

This is the most common problem. Whenever we dream of angels and demons, we apply human concepts to them. Even the very idea of an “angel” or “demon” are human concepts. What if they simply “were.”



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Re: A Challenge for the Christians
« Reply #2 on: December 01, 2011, 01:17:14 PM »
OMG… What is this, kindergarten talk? Don’t think too hard if this is the best you can do… You might hurt yourself.

If there’s a God, he’s beyond our human understanding. Whatever ideas you have regarding God is a construct of your own… For the REAL God exists beyond the plane of human intellect and is not knowable. These ideas you have such as “infinite power” don’t apply to him…. This is a human concept.

This is the most common problem. Whenever we dream of angels and demons, we apply human concepts to them. Even the very idea of an “angel” or “demon” are human concepts. What if they simply “were.”


Well according to Christians, Jesus was God So God does exists in the plane of Human intellect


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Re: A Challenge for the Christians
« Reply #3 on: December 01, 2011, 03:21:38 PM »
Well according to Christians, Jesus was God So God does exists in the plain of Human intellect

That's the problem with Christians, they don't realize they're creating their own religion. If God is real and omnipotent, then whatever conclusions we make about him/it is irrelevant. Why? Because something as infinite as God cannot be understood by humans. It's like an insect trying to understand the universe... it's impossible.

All we know is this:

A. Life begins.

B. Life ends.


Anything else is pure speculation.



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Re: A Challenge for the Christians
« Reply #4 on: December 02, 2011, 12:17:42 PM »
 O0 O0  So true...we don't know...we only know what is written.

That's the problem with Christians, they don't realize they're creating their own religion. If God is real and omnipotent, then whatever conclusions we make about him/it is irrelevant. Why? Because something as infinite as God cannot be understood by humans. It's like an insect trying to understand the universe... it's impossible.

All we know is this:

A. Life begins.

B. Life ends.


Anything else is pure speculation.



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Re: A Challenge for the Christians
« Reply #5 on: December 02, 2011, 03:23:08 PM »
Ok so God Can do anything, that's what makes God a God. So that means that he Can create someone stronger than him to be able to destroy him. Or it can mean that he can never make someone stronger than him because he is infinite so nothing can be stronger than him.

Ok so if he Can make someone stronger than him to destroy him, then he is not infinitely powerful thus he doesn't deserve the name God. If he can't make someone strong enough to kill him then he can't do Anything thus he doesnt deserve the name God because God is supposed to be able to do anything




Are you serious? 

You are a good example of wasted food stamps & wic.  Public education has failed us.   :-\ 



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Re: A Challenge for the Christians
« Reply #6 on: December 02, 2011, 03:35:38 PM »


Are you serious? 

You are a good example of wasted food stamps & wic.  Public education has failed us.   :-\ 

yes education have failed us, and it shows in people like you who cant even take a challenge. instead try to make claims of being smarter than others online.

if you had any brains in you, you would've taken the challenge and presented your side of the argument



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Re: A Challenge for the Christians
« Reply #7 on: December 02, 2011, 08:34:39 PM »
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Ok so God Can do anything, that's what makes God a God. So that means that he Can create someone stronger than him to be able to destroy him. Or it can mean that he can never make someone stronger than him because he is infinite so nothing can be stronger than him.
He could but he won't. 

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Ok so if he Can make someone stronger than him to destroy him, then he is not infinitely powerful thus he doesn't deserve the name God. If he can't make someone strong enough to kill him then he can't do Anything thus he doesnt deserve the name God because God is supposed to be able to do anything
You are talking as if his powers were limited.  Not so.



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Re: A Challenge for the Christians
« Reply #8 on: December 03, 2011, 06:59:07 AM »
1.  If God is the highest level that anyone or anything could go then why not ask what create such God? 

2.  Well to fix the problem, you have to add a filtration to make it work.  What is known as the creator can not create itself like if you can get 3 wishes, you can not wish for more wishes. 



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Re: A Challenge for the Christians
« Reply #9 on: December 03, 2011, 10:36:47 AM »
O0 O0  So true...we don't know...we only know what is written.


Only if you can prove what is written is true and factual. This has yet to happen.



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Re: A Challenge for the Christians
« Reply #10 on: December 03, 2011, 01:46:23 PM »
That's the problem with Christians, they don't realize they're creating their own religion. If God is real and omnipotent, then whatever conclusions we make about him/it is irrelevant. Why? Because something as infinite as God cannot be understood by humans. It's like an insect trying to understand the universe... it's impossible.

All we know is this:

A. Life begins.

B. Life ends.


Anything else is pure speculation.

life doesn't end. it all depends on how you define it.



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Re: A Challenge for the Christians
« Reply #11 on: December 03, 2011, 10:19:41 PM »
No one knows for sure a God exists.  The image of God is created by man based on human intelligence  >:D >:D.



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Re: A Challenge for the Christians
« Reply #12 on: December 06, 2011, 06:40:41 PM »
yes education have failed us, and it shows in people like you who cant even take a challenge. instead try to make claims of being smarter than others online.

if you had any brains in you, you would've taken the challenge and presented your side of the argument

What a waste of time but I'm gonna kept it simple. 

Ask yourself, if you were god, why would you create something to kill yourself?   ;)



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Re: A Challenge for the Christians
« Reply #13 on: December 06, 2011, 07:20:45 PM »
Ok so God Can do anything, that's what makes God a God. So that means that he Can create someone stronger than him to be able to destroy him. Or it can mean that he can never make someone stronger than him because he is infinite so nothing can be stronger than him.

Ok so if he Can make someone stronger than him to destroy him, then he is not infinitely powerful thus he doesn't deserve the name God. If he can't make someone strong enough to kill him then he can't do Anything thus he doesnt deserve the name God because God is supposed to be able to do anything

  your logic fails as X approaches infinity.   ;)

Something for you:
Proof that 0.999999999999 99999999999999 9999999999.... = 1

Let X = 0.99.....
That means 10X = 9.99....

So:
10X = 9.99....
-   X = 0.99....
______________
 9X = 9.0000...
 divide boths sides by 9 to get X = 1



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Re: A Challenge for the Christians
« Reply #14 on: December 06, 2011, 11:42:15 PM »
What a waste of time but I'm gonna kept it simple. 

Ask yourself, if you were god, why would you create something to kill yourself?   ;)

I never said he would create someone stronger.....I said he Can.



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