Occupy Wall Street and etc...

[8v10un30sun]

Are you guys for or against this?

I'm a rebel at heart like the founding fathers, I think we should have change to better the majority and not the elite few.  I am for occupy wall street; I am most certainly not for lazy liberal "free lunch" programs.

My thing is less regulation, more harsher punishment, don't allow banks to be investment banks, don't let investment banks manipulate with hedging to manipulate pricing.  There is honestly when there are too much rules and regulation.  Whatever happen to a gentleman's word or handshake or the honor code?

[Evil_K_Man]

My thing is less regulation, more harsher punishment, don't allow banks to be investment banks, don't let investment banks manipulate with hedging to manipulate pricing.  There is honestly when there are too much rules and regulation.  Whatever happen to a gentleman's word or handshake or the honor code?

Isn't this statement somewhat contradictory?  You say less regulation, yet you want laws (i.e. regulations) pass to restrict, if not define what banks can and cannot do along with harsher punishments (i.e. more regulations).

And with regards to a gentleman’s word/handshake/honor…well that kind of thing doesn’t hold too much weight these days or have you forgotten what happened during the real estate crash.

[Evil_K_Man]

Oh and with regards to your original question.

I'm for it, but living in a capitalistic society where its dog eat dog...I've come to accept the fact that it is what it is.  An Elite class is the natural outcome of a system where personal wealth and gain is more important than the betterment of mankind.

[tetrapod]

They are expressing their frustration.  They know what the problem is but feel helpless about it.  I do feel what they feel.  I'm just not motivated enough to join them but I am glad we have them protesting.  But without the backing of billionaires like the Tea Party, I doubt they will be very successful.  Politicians are not taking them very seriously after all money speaks.  I think when things get so bad, we will take arms and storm the white house the way the Libyans did in Libya.

[Reporter]

Earth is changing and I am glad to be here to witness it all!

[Gutts]

I thought we lived in a day in which people knew how to clean up after themselves?

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2011/11/occupy-la-30-tons-of-debris-left-behind-at-city-hall-tent-city.html

Occupy L.A.: 30 tons of debris left behind at City Hall tent city

Sanitation officials said Wednesday that they expect to haul away 30 tons of debris from the Occupy L.A. encampment –- everything from clothing to heaps of garbage to oddball curiosities left behind by the protesters who lived at the City Hall tent city for two months.

Andrea Alarcon, president of the city Public Works board, said workers already have removed 25 tons of belongings from the City Hall park, all of it heading straight to a landfill.

Sanitation crews also have vacuumed up about 3,000 gallons of water that had washed into a catch basin in recent days and are testing it for hazardous materials, she said.

Occupy L.A.: Photos | Videos | 360° photos

The sheer volume of personal belongings left behind after the early morning Los Angeles Police Department raid has astonished city workers: books and CDs, luggage and boom boxes, mattresses and dining chairs, cellphones, electric razors, a small red guitar with its neck snapped –- all surrounded by dozens of collapsed and empty tents.

A steady flow of people stopped by the park Wednesday to take photos and video and watch workers in white hazmat suits rake trash into neat piles.
As workers broke down tents and placed them in trash cans, Ramir Delgado, 25, snapped photos out of curiosity.

"It's a shame how I see all trash around here," he said. He pointed to his head. "People don't understand that the freedom starts here in your mind."

Delgado said he was disappointed in Occupy L.A.

 "You know why this is filthy and not clean is there isn't leadership," he said.

A few feet away, crews in the hazmat suits raked trash of discarded protest signs, nail polish and jars of peanut butter.

"This looks like pure anarchy," Delgado said, adding, “in a Hollywood way.”

Donna Spurgeon, who snapped pictures on her phone, said she was surprised by the mural in the center of the south lawn.

“How did that get built” she asked of the structure that city officials built around an historic fountain, a structure protesters turned into an art piece.

“If you’re here to protest, don’t deface public property,” Spurgeon said.

She said the aftermath looked like a “little war zone, a little ghetto.”

Norman Schwartz, 76, a retired attorney from Calabasas, felt differently. He stopped by Wednesday afternoon to snap photos and suggested that the Occupy L.A. scene was a great lesson in democracy. He said he was sad to see the park so empty.

“There was no longer this wonderful thing going on,” he said. “It was just an empty, dirty park.”

[Xyooj96]

i'm in for compassionate capitalism

set the rules for everyone at the same level, no loopholes for anyone, no special treatments for some but not others.

as spiderman's uncle said, "with great power comes great responsibility" and if we can get that then we would live in harmony.

[MilesDaddy]

I am against occupy "WHATEVER" they have no clear message. the other thing I don't like is that they actually defy law enforcement and then act so Shocked and  :surprised when the Police Do what they said they would do if they didn't leave. If you want to change the rules, you should get involved and stop Air Chair Quarterbacking

[MilesDaddy]

I'm for Occupy Wall Street.

I don't care how deep my pockets are, I hate how Corporations exploit cheap labor and how property owners get rich off their tenants. At least I earned the money I worked hard for, these others mofos don't give back to the people that helped them get there.

next time your offered a job and the pay is too low, DON"T ACCEPT THERE offer.....prop erty owners getting rich....THAT'S BECAUSE THEY ARE TAKING THE RISK. I have been a lanlord in the past. It's not as easy as you may think

[SpottedCow]

I am against occupy "WHATEVER" they have no clear message. the other thing I don't like is that they actually defy law enforcement and then act so Shocked and  :surprised when the Police Do what they said they would do if they didn't leave. If you want to change the rules, you should get involved and stop Air Chair Quarterbacking

Agreed!

If you want something changed, at least agree on a "purpose!" 

Don't get me wrong, the intentions are good but they need to be more organized.

[8v10un30sun]

Ekm, I believe in less regulation and harsher punishment to deter criminals.  My view is to simplify the legal system through a harsher form of punishment.  If you cause trillion dollar damage you get life in prison and strip of all your wealth to the common people.  Instead theses organization and leaders are protected by the veil of the corporation and they get nothing.  In fact the common wealth looses and the elite few gains.

You may think I'm adding regulation through segregation but if you compare the rules to ensure both system are playing by the rule would be a lot more then simply saying a bank cannot do investment or they lose the license operate as one.  That is way more simple the a compliance system with agents, enforcer, court hearing, registration and etc...  Then you have to deal with the violaters and etc....  If you can play nice you get time out.  Simple rules.  We don't need a hundred page law with a thousand page guidance documents.  In my line of work in devices it is just that.  I have to know over a hundred and more CFR plus the act that created the law then I have to be aware of all the freaking guidance document for each sub system of the law.  It is hell and I'm sure financ works the same.

Isn't this statement somewhat contradictory?  You say less regulation, yet you want laws (i.e. regulations) pass to restrict, if not define what banks can and cannot do along with harsher punishments (i.e. more regulations).

And with regards to a gentleman’s word/handshake/honor…well that kind of thing doesn’t hold too much weight these days or have you forgotten what happened during the real estate crash.

[8v10un30sun]

Agreed!

If you want something changed, at least agree on a "purpose!" 

Don't get me wrong, the intentions are good but they need to be more organized.

Ever heard of the French revolution?  Did you know an angry mob is to be fear.  No amount of enforcement will stop a revolution when the elite who trades money live off the back of the working class.

I know this because I spent a bit of time as a day trader and albeit not very successful at it I realize that if you have the information, knowledge, expertise and $$$, you can make millions doing nothing.

[Hung_Low]

I'm for Occupy Wall Street.

I don't care how deep my pockets are, I hate how Corporations exploit cheap labor and how property owners get rich off their tenants. At least I earned the money I worked hard for, these others mofos don't give back to the people that helped them get there.

Wait a minute... you earned the money you worked for? So, you are saying all of these rich people didn't earned their money? When it comes to you, you earned it but if it's someone else, they didn't earned it but took it from others. I see your logic here...
I am against OWS... they have no agenda, not organized, and they are protesting the wrong group of people. They should be protesting against the U.S. gov't... who created all these mess in the first place with all their regulations and laws.

[8v10un30sun]

Wait a minute... you earned the money you worked for? So, you are saying all of these rich people didn't earned their money? When it comes to you, you earned it but if it's someone else, they didn't earned it but took it from others. I see your logic here...
I am against OWS... they have no agenda, not organized, and they are protesting the wrong group of people. They should be protesting against the U.S. gov't... who created all these mess in the first place with all their regulations and laws.

A day trader makes $$ and does absolutely nothing to better society.  You can make the argument that he helps finance things but that's bullshit.

[MilesDaddy]

Oh, I guess you never heard of inheriting wealth? And I assume you clearly cannot see the link between taking over Iraq's Oil Fields and the increase in profits from Oil Companies? Definitely a coincidence.

I'll make my kids earn their money because I know they'll adapt to the situation and make the most of it. Other people on the other hand...

Oil Company employ thousands of people, why are they not allowed to make a profit. Especially when they are so heavily regulated by the government. If you don't want to buy foreign oil you should do some research on just what gas stations sell domestic and foreign oil, as for as the kids go ,I couldn't agree with you more