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Police shoot man in east-central Fresno
« on: December 14, 2011, 03:45:06 AM »

A man is in critical condition after an officer-involved shooting early Monday morning in east-central Fresno, police said.
 
Officers responded to a call about 12:15 a.m. from a woman who said her son had threatened to kill family members, Fresno police said. When two officers arrived at the home on the 5100 block of East Lamona Avenue, they saw a man, identified by police as Seng Yang, 26, inside the home armed with a semiautomatic handgun.
 
One officer fired a warning shot into the ground in an effort to convince Yang to drop the gun. He refused to obey officers and walked toward the front door of the home with the gun, prompting one of the officers to shoot at Yang, police said.
 
Yang threw the gun onto the front yard, but came running out of the home toward the officers, armed with a hunting knife with an 8-inch blade, police said.
 
Both officers shot at Yang, hitting him several times.


Yang, who was taken to Community Regional Medical Center, is expected to survive, police said. Five family members inside the home were not injured


Read more: http://www.fresnobee.com/2011/12/12/2646597/report-police-shoot-man-in-east.html#ixzz1gUrUCuZb



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Re: Police shoot man in east-central Fresno
« Reply #1 on: December 14, 2011, 03:48:07 AM »
Family of Man Shot By Police Speaks Out

Updated: Dec 13, 2011 1:16 AM PST

FRESNO, Calif. (KMPH) -
A domestic disturbance call turned into not one, but two dangerous confrontations between Fresno Police and a man armed with a gun, and then a knife.
 
The end result: two shootings by Fresno police officers, and plenty of questions, especially from the family of Seng Yang.
 
Yang is now fighting for his life at a local hospital.
 
This was the scene just after midnight Monday morning, after two Fresno police officers shot and critically wounded the 26-year-old.
 
Hours later, Yang's uncle is still searching for answers, including which hospital his nephew is in.
 
Vang Yang says his sister-in-law called 911 because her son couldn't sleep, he was talking to himself, and his body was shaking.

 
Yang believes police should not have used less lethal force.
 
Vang Yang says, "When they get to the house, they should use the Taser to disable the person to see what's happening to person, if person mentally ill and shoot the mentally ill person, have no reason."
 
Fresno Police Chief Jerry Dyer says Yang refused to obey officers' commands to put down a gun, even after police fired a warning shot.
 
Dyer says Yang walked towards them, forcing officers to shoot.
 
Dyer adds, when officers backed away, again Yang came at them with another weapon.
 
Dyer says his officers had no choice.

http://www.kmph.com/story/16310557/family-of-man-shot-by-police-speaks-out


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Re: Police shoot man in east-central Fresno
« Reply #2 on: December 14, 2011, 08:44:02 AM »
Family of Man Shot By Police Speaks Out

Updated: Dec 13, 2011 1:16 AM PST

FRESNO, Calif. (KMPH) -
A domestic disturbance call turned into not one, but two dangerous confrontations between Fresno Police and a man armed with a gun, and then a knife.
 
The end result: two shootings by Fresno police officers, and plenty of questions, especially from the family of Seng Yang.
 
Yang is now fighting for his life at a local hospital.
 
This was the scene just after midnight Monday morning, after two Fresno police officers shot and critically wounded the 26-year-old.
 
Hours later, Yang's uncle is still searching for answers, including which hospital his nephew is in.
 
Vang Yang says his sister-in-law called 911 because her son couldn't sleep, he was talking to himself, and his body was shaking.

 
Yang believes police should not have used less lethal force. --------> CHANGE TO SHOULD
 
Vang Yang says, "When they get to the house, they should use the Taser to disable the person to see what's happening to person, if person mentally ill and shoot the mentally ill person, have no reason."
 
Fresno Police Chief Jerry Dyer says Yang refused to obey officers' commands to put down a gun, even after police fired a warning shot.
 
Dyer says Yang walked towards them, forcing officers to shoot.
 
Dyer adds, when officers backed away, again Yang came at them with another weapon.
 
Dyer says his officers had no choice.

http://www.kmph.com/story/16310557/family-of-man-shot-by-police-speaks-out



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Re: Police shoot man in east-central Fresno
« Reply #3 on: December 14, 2011, 12:09:12 PM »
What else could I say? Should have dropped the gun. When your messing with  :police: listen and obey, take actions later if necessary.

Maybe he was mentally ill, but police don't know that. If a person is charging at me with a knife I am not going to wait and find out if he has issues or not.


Remeber threat + :police: = shot at!

You rather have 1 wounded than 5 dead.



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Re: Police shoot man in east-central Fresno
« Reply #4 on: December 14, 2011, 01:30:41 PM »
Not too many officers are trained like Chuck Norris...a lot of them get frightened very easily.



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Re: Police shoot man in east-central Fresno
« Reply #5 on: December 14, 2011, 01:52:33 PM »
My bro is in law enforcement.  And yes, he had involved in shooting incidents, and were justifiable.  In the case of this particular conflict, first take the blame on the family.  The Hmong people has such a unique structure to work with domestic dispute.  They could have at least called the relatives and have someone who's English proficient to speak to the dispatcher.  Secondly, this is the reason why the city need to have Hmong speaking staff to work with to break any language and cultural barrier.  Law enforcement are train to protect themselves at all time.  In the case of anyone with a weapon in their hand and disobeying, officer is likely to use taser.  In the event that a person has weapons in their hands and charge at officer, chances are the will shoot.  Merced incident is a whole new story but this Fresno case is justifiable.



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Re: Police shoot man in east-central Fresno
« Reply #6 on: December 14, 2011, 06:20:01 PM »
I think the beef is that some of the police reports are one sided....it's the nature of the beast.  On top of this, you have news reports looking to sensationalize things further.  Just remember that all cops are trigger happy so obey the law and do what they say...... O0



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Re: Police shoot man in east-central Fresno
« Reply #7 on: December 14, 2011, 06:30:40 PM »
u afraid of him n he is your family...so ...u call police..u think they feel safe...with him charging at them...i think not...bang bang...talk later...lucky police so afraid-shaky that they missed his vitals....ques tions unanswer...ple ase Hmong....



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Re: Police shoot man in east-central Fresno
« Reply #8 on: December 16, 2011, 09:27:38 AM »
Hey, not fair.  I get shot at it for having sex in the car.  :knuppel2:



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Re: Police shoot man in east-central Fresno
« Reply #9 on: December 16, 2011, 01:39:43 PM »
A mentally ill Hmong men was killed in Milwaukee few years ago.  He thought they were poisoning his children at school and so he refused to let them go to school.  The social worker could not get him to let the kids go to school and threaten them.  They called the police and ended shooting the mentally ill man.  He was not taking his children as hostage.  He was just protecting them from the outside world.  But I guess the social worker and the police think they have a hostage situation.  So much misunderstandi ng.  It has been an old story I don't remember the details.  I only remember reading it in the paper.

We need to seek help for our family members if we suspect they have mental illness. 



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Re: Police shoot man in east-central Fresno
« Reply #10 on: December 16, 2011, 05:54:51 PM »
wow, does the fresno police agency allow their officers to give warning shots; either on the ground or in the sky?

when officers arrive at the home, they saw a man armed with a loaded gun. This family must have all their front windows free from any window curtains, for the officers to view him with a loaded gun. How did the officer know that the gun was loaded? interesting... .......... So when the offcers saw that the suspect had a gun; and ordered him to drop the weapon. when the suspect failed to do so, one of the officers just aim on the ground and pull the trigger? Wow, again, fresno police dept. allow such warning shots? Ok, they saw the gun and commanded him to drop the gun. they ordered him to come outside. the suspect game out with the gun, but tossed it on the ground. The suspect then continued to come toward the officer with a long bladed knife. Which means, the suspect had both the gun and a long bladed knife?

The chief backed this up.

fresno communities better be careful. fresno police officers will shoot warning shots for the suspects to drop their weapon. If not they shall shoot to injure only.



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Re: Police shoot man in east-central Fresno
« Reply #11 on: December 16, 2011, 05:58:29 PM »
The cops has every right to defend themselves when they are in immediate danger. In this case, they have the right to shoot the suspect because he has a knife and had it in his hand when he approached the officers.

The only question i have is: "One officer fired a warning shot on the ground for the suspect to drop his loaded gun" How did the officer know that the gun is loaded when they say the gun? Did they see bullets in the chamber and/or magazine?



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Re: Police shoot man in east-central Fresno
« Reply #12 on: December 16, 2011, 06:31:56 PM »
The cops has every right to defend themselves when they are in immediate danger. In this case, they have the right to shoot the suspect because he has a knife and had it in his hand when he approached the officers.

The only question i have is: "One officer fired a warning shot on the ground for the suspect to drop his loaded gun" How did the officer know that the gun is loaded when they say the gun? Did they see bullets in the chamber and/or magazine?

Officers don't need to know if the gun is loaded or not. They will shot you even if you have a toy gun that looks like a real one. Once they consider you a threat to them and the public, your ethier dead or wounded. Its not like they going to show up and ask you if your gun is real or not and if it is load or not, thats just plain stupid. Any suspect with a gun is consider arm and dangerous loaded or not and real or not.


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Re: Police shoot man in east-central Fresno
« Reply #13 on: December 17, 2011, 05:39:49 AM »
All fvcking ignorant posts....like a cop is supposed to know some dumb arse is mentally illed, yet dumb arse holds a firearm n then rushes the officers with a knife..mentall y illed? Hell no...thumps up to the cops....if i were being rushed by a man not obeying orders...my mind says he isnt fvcking mentally illed...i'd shoot to...
Plz dont start with the racial he is a hmong dude...obviius ly someone called the cops cause the situation was only going to end up bad....



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Re: Police shoot man in east-central Fresno
« Reply #14 on: December 17, 2011, 05:51:13 AM »
People like that Hmong man are not "mentally il" they are "mentally high."



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