Ethics and Morality

[8v10un30sun]

You can be ethical and yet be in a moral peril.  Why?  Debate the meaning of the two and if they are the same or not the same and if same why and not the same why?

[Reporter]

I say let's ask Aristotle and maybe Plato for help?

[8v10un30sun]

I say let's ask Aristotle and maybe Plato for help?

That's too easy

[Reporter]

 

[DonJuan]

Ethics and morality are dependent on cultures, religions and society.

In a true sense of energy as sorcery, there is no such a thing. However, if one follows and live by the energy flows- one can be considered as being a great moral and ethical person. For me to go into details in this Hmong forum is a waste of my time and yours.

[Bob_J.D.]

Let's say your client hires you and tells you where he killed and dumped the body of that young beautiful girl everyone is looking for who had gone missing days ago.  Ethically your bounded to keep your mouth close but then morally your a wreck because there's nothing you can do to help out the poor girl's family.

bob

[tetrapod]

Let's say your client hires you and tells you where he killed and dumped the body of that young beautiful girl everyone is looking for who had gone missing days ago.  Ethically your bounded to keep your mouth close but then morally your a wreck because there's nothing you can do to help out the poor girl's family.

bob

Doesn't this make you a criminal?

[Hung_Low]

Ethics and morality are dependent on cultures, religions and society.

In a true sense of energy as sorcery, there is no such a thing. However, if one follows and live by the energy flows- one can be considered as being a great moral and ethical person. For me to go into details in this Hmong forum is a waste of my time and yours.

yeah, you're right... you should keep out, since no one here is up to your standard (in your opinion) and no one here cares about your babbling...

[8v10un30sun]

Give some scenarios like Bob JD where you felt ethically right but morally wrong. 

[freebird]

Doesn't this make you a criminal?

Not if you're a lawyer. You're bounded by an ethical code to keep your mouth shut and make sure you ensure your client gets a fair trial. That's what Ally McBeal and Boston Legal taught me.

Morals-beliefs, thoughts, personal/individual
Ethics-actions, collective

That's how I would simplify things.

[Bob_J.D.]

Doesn't this make you a criminal?

You are only a criminal if you help your client commit the crime.


bob

[tetrapod]

You are only a criminal if you help your client commit the crime.


bob

but if i were not a lawyer and knew about his crime but keep my mouth shut, would that make me a criminal?

[Bob_J.D.]

but if i were not a lawyer and knew about his crime but keep my mouth shut, would that make me a criminal?

No unless you took some positive action to help him, I.e. Hide the gun or give him money to flee.

Other than that you are not legally obligated to tell the police anything.  That's where your moral dilemma comes in.


bob

[moonangel]

No unless you took some positive action to help him, I.e. Hide the gun or give him money to flee.

Other than that you are not legally obligated to tell the police anything.  That's where your moral dilemma comes in.


bob

What if that was your niece and the guy didn't know you were related to her.

[population1]

I've already forgotten western ethics when I last learned about it in school. This could be a question of to-be or not-to-be, or of vices and virtue or such as one needs to break the rules/laws in order to sustain life; lies vs truths when trying not to hurt someone; one can still be an ethical debater but doesn't necessarily mean the person is morally practical... just some things off the top of my head.