Hmoob Dab qhuas...

[NceegVaj]

There's lovely 18 clans.  Each f-kng clan has about avg 4 sub clans (e.g. yang 1, 3,5,7 9, & 13 txig).  That means 4 x 18 = 72 processions on how to handle their damn death, and nyuj dab rituals.


Can someone tell me how the H3ll we expect to get along?

Dang.  For the Christians, at least they have an ultimate God.  Hmong has shi.t god and 72 demons to appease.

Tired of being Hmong.  Jumping off the river tonight...good bye!

Any comment?

[population1]

Many people get along just fine as compared to others that don't get along. What makes you think the world is still in much better order and control than it was as history has it?

In almost all religions, there is a god or gods and goddess(es). Rituals have to do with communion and spirituality, and it may or may not necessarily involve worship to a god or offering & respect to ancestors, whichever applies.

[Qau]

Tired of being Hmong.  Jumping off the river tonight...good bye!

Any comment?

There goes one less idiot on Earth. 

[Qau]

NceegVaj...ceb yus tsev ua ntej mam mus ceb luag tsev. Who gives a f*k about the sub clans or other main clans? What matters is that you know your own clan's rituals; funerals, nyuj dab, etc. Do you think I care about your clan's nyuj dab or funeral? There so why do you care about my clan. Do your own thing and respect my clan and I will do the same.

See you did not have to jump in the river after all...

[NceegVaj]

NceegVaj...ceb yus tsev ua ntej mam mus ceb luag tsev. Who gives a f*k about the sub clans or other main clans? What matters is that you know your own clan's rituals; funerals, nyuj dab, etc. Do you think I care about your clan's nyuj dab or funeral? There so why do you care about my clan. Do your own thing and respect my clan and I will do the same.

See you did not have to jump in the river after all...

I need the "qau" clan ritual.  can you help me?

[MovKuam]

good bye and see you at the funeral home.

[Amara]

Going off on a tangent here, what is the significance of the sub clans (e.g. 1, 3, 5, 7, etc..)?

[A_New_Beginning]

There's lovely 18 clans.  Each f-kng clan has about avg 4 sub clans (e.g. yang 1, 3,5,7 9, & 13 txig).  That means 4 x 18 = 72 processions on how to handle their damn death, and nyuj dab rituals.


Can someone tell me how the H3ll we expect to get along?

Dang.  For the Christians, at least they have an ultimate God.  Hmong has shi.t god and 72 demons to appease.

Tired of being Hmong.  Jumping off the river tonight...good bye!

Any comment?

I have not heard of 1 subclan...what lastname has that?

[Reporter]

Going off on a tangent here, what is the significance of the sub clans (e.g. 1, 3, 5, 7, etc..)?

The original clan divided itself into subclans because of the sons born by the various wives of the great, great, great, great...grandp a.  For example, if first wife got 9 sons, their rituals made them the 9 txig subclan that Nceeg is referring to. The second wife's 5 sons followed the 5 txig ritual. Etc.

Over the years, some subclans have been created but not on that anymore. If they turned themselves into a subclan of a larger clan, they call themselves by a particular number to identify their subclan, not because they were descendants of a wife who had that number of sons. So, the 7 txig subclan that changed itself from some other clan in the modern days has come to identify itself by this number.

It's true that each Hmong clan has several subclans, usually 3. I haven't heard of more than that. But 3 is typical.  (Subclans are members of the same clan but just do their family rituals a bit differently from one another.)

How do we get along? I would have the Nobel Peace Prize already if I had the answer.

[Reporter]

good bye and see you at the funeral home.

You going to his funeral? Even if he's not in your subclan? lol

[Xyooj96]

 never heard of 1 and 3

it should not be classified as a subclan, each is a group within a clan.

a clan is a last name, i.e. xyooj, vaj, yaj, lis, etc

[DonJuan]

There's lovely 18 clans.  Each f-kng clan has about avg 4 sub clans (e.g. yang 1, 3,5,7 9, & 13 txig).  That means 4 x 18 = 72 processions on how to handle their damn death, and nyuj dab rituals.


Can someone tell me how the H3ll we expect to get along?

Dang.  For the Christians, at least they have an ultimate God.  Hmong has shi.t god and 72 demons to appease.

Tired of being Hmong.  Jumping off the river tonight...good bye!

Any comment?

Are you seeking truth or one god? That is the question.

[fishin715]

most clans in the same city try to follow their own rituals.  ie...hmong xiong from mong oo do their own rituals because they are usually of the same xiong family tree.  hmong av liab same thing too.  etc.  from what i know, my xiong clan does what my grandpa and great grandpa and their brothers did.   i don't know of any subclan you guys are referring to.