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Offline tetrapod

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Let's date and marry our own clan
« on: January 10, 2012, 06:02:17 PM »
Let's bring unity by destroying the clan system.  Let's start with you. 

Find a girl or guy of your last name and date.  And if you two match, marry.

Now when we no longer have division by clan, we can go on to dissolve the religious division between Christians and non-Christians.



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Re: Let's date and marry our own clan
« Reply #1 on: January 10, 2012, 08:06:44 PM »
I'd do it but would she?? It sucks that our clan system limits our dating/marriage pool. A lot of the attractive hmong girls I run into are always from my clan.  :(
I say we drop the divisions and date whoever we want including our own clan  >:D



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Re: Let's date and marry our own clan
« Reply #2 on: January 10, 2012, 08:13:48 PM »
I don't have a problem with the clan system. It has its place in our ethnic group. Those who heavily oppose our Hmong clan system either doesn't have a good understanding of how and why it works or is experiencing some major hate against their own family members.


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Re: Let's date and marry our own clan
« Reply #3 on: January 10, 2012, 08:19:58 PM »
Let's bring unity by destroying the clan system.  Let's start with you. 

Find a girl or guy of your last name and date.  And if you two match, marry.

Now when we no longer have division by clan, we can go on to dissolve the religious division between Christians and non-Christians.


Same clan dating, too late, many are already doing it....Many!

The division of christians and non-christians are only the few...the majority could careless

I'm assuming you have/want a gain here (as in, you like someone of your own clan??)....by the time anything dissolves, you will no longer be.....



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Re: Let's date and marry our own clan
« Reply #4 on: January 10, 2012, 08:35:16 PM »
Let's bring unity by destroying the clan system.  Let's start with you. 

Find a girl or guy of your last name and date.  And if you two match, marry.

Now when we no longer have division by clan, we can go on to dissolve the religious division between Christians and non-Christians.


If you are breaking our traditions just to assimilate Christians and non-Christians, then it's not worth it. Plus, it's never going to happen. Non-Hmong Christians have been divided for years and they have married across cultures but even the various Christianity denominations don't assimilate. 

I've heard young Hmong saying they are not going to let the clan system get in their ways, though. They say life is moving too fast, they don't have the time to be tied up by such system. They are just going to marry their own lovers--whatever the clan, could be same or different--and move on in life.



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Re: Let's date and marry our own clan
« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2012, 12:46:22 PM »
Let's bring unity by destroying the clan system.  Let's start with you. 

Find a girl or guy of your last name and date.  And if you two match, marry.

Now when we no longer have division by clan, we can go on to dissolve the religious division between Christians and non-Christians.


Why stop there... go for your brothers and sisters too. I mean, what's the difference?



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Re: Let's date and marry our own clan
« Reply #6 on: January 11, 2012, 12:58:02 PM »
Why stop there... go for your brothers and sisters too. I mean, what's the difference?

I did not say you can marry your sister or your first or even your third cousins.



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Re: Let's date and marry our own clan
« Reply #7 on: January 11, 2012, 01:13:13 PM »
I did not say you can marry your sister or your first or even your third cousins.

But you could marry your first cousin of a different last name per current traditions. lol



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Re: Let's date and marry our own clan
« Reply #8 on: January 11, 2012, 01:13:47 PM »
I did not say you can marry your sister or your first or even your third cousins.

But when you marry your own clan, you pretty much are marrying your first, second, third or fourth cousin.



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Re: Let's date and marry our own clan
« Reply #9 on: January 11, 2012, 01:15:15 PM »
But you could marry your first cousin of a different last name per current traditions. lol

You could.  You could even marry your own sister.

I recommend against marrying first cousins, second cousins, and third cousins.  It makes genetic sense.  

There are famous people that marry their first cousin.  Darwin is one of them.



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Re: Let's date and marry our own clan
« Reply #10 on: January 11, 2012, 02:08:06 PM »
But when you marry your own clan, you pretty much are marrying your first, second, third or fourth cousin.

And the sisters, too.



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Re: Let's date and marry our own clan
« Reply #11 on: January 11, 2012, 05:02:19 PM »
Damn left wing liberal hmongs....

Trying to change a system that has been in place for hundreds of years (if not more).  What next, you want to marry your brother/sister, you want to marry a dog, a toaster....

Disgusting...

P.S. Its still okay to marry your own BLOOD first cousin though... O0

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Re: Let's date and marry our own clan
« Reply #12 on: January 11, 2012, 05:53:15 PM »
Tetra, for years you talk about unity but all you've ever done is talked about breaking the system and creating DIVIDES.  The system provides for unity.  Without a system, society and civilization falls apart into anarchy and where is unity in anarchy?  Please evaluate how you use the word UNITY so loosely in your arguments.

I think you have a BIG GAP in many of your logic and rationale.  Lastly, diversity is a good thing.

Let's bring unity by destroying the clan system.  Let's start with you.  

Find a girl or guy of your last name and date.  And if you two match, marry.

Now when we no longer have division by clan, we can go on to dissolve the religious division between Christians and non-Christians.




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Re: Let's date and marry our own clan
« Reply #13 on: January 11, 2012, 06:12:29 PM »
Tetra, for years you talk about unity but all you've ever done is talked about breaking the system and creating DIVIDES.  The system provides for unity.  Without a system, society and civilization falls apart into anarchy and where is unity in anarchy?  Please evaluate how you use the word UNITY so loosely in your arguments.

I think you have a BIG GAP in many of your logic and rationale.  Lastly, diversity is a good thing.


How's having multiple clans unite Hmong people? 



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Re: Let's date and marry our own clan
« Reply #14 on: January 11, 2012, 06:24:39 PM »
How's having multiple clans unite Hmong people?  

The question I have is how does destroying the entire system promotes unity?  To me that is anarchy and anarchy is not unity.  Unless you specify an alternative in your writing to communicate to us that there is one then such follows after destruction right - anarchy.

I do agree the clan system is quite ineffective at unity and a possibility is getting rid of it but getting rid of the systems and etc... seems extreme.  i will say it worked for China but will it work for Hmong?  I don't know.



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