Interracial and homosexual dating/marriage

[freebird]

I should explain myself too, using the definition afwife supplied...

Why freebird does not like using the word 'tolerate' on groups of people:

1) that even the thought of permitting/allowing someone to be Hmong, or gay, or a gay Hmong dating a gay White is presumptuous to say the least;
2) that disguising one's true belief, in this case, disapproval of someone's sexuality or race, behind the use of 'respect' is enough and will somehow remove her from the likes of people who are more loud, hateful, and in opposition of peoples right to love who they will, be who they are;
3) that there is something wrong with being homosexual or dating out of ones race; or to be Hmong, or Jew, or Christian, or Islamic, or ________.

People don't need your tolerance to exist. They need you to get off your holier than thou horse and see that you are both equal. You don't use words like tolerate when you see someone as your equal. That is the difference here.

Imagine a room full of people who tolerate your being Hmong vs. a room full of people who accept your being Hmong without any issue, bias, prejudice, etc.

I hope my point is clear enough. I'm glad we all know our vocabulary here. I hope our wisdom and knowledge increases so that we may learn how to use words appropriately.

After all, words can be very powerful.





[so much easier to type on a computer ^__^]

[non dormis]

i can only tolerate a certain amount of straight people, not including myself (i cant tolerate myself). the rest of them are just so homophobic and racist.

[slude]

my view on homo-relationship

aim niam

i·nia

aim·niam, aim·niam(s), aim·niam·lawg
1. muther-fawker
2. zero tolerance

[Gutts]

The problem with going homosexual is that you cannot reproduce, therefore, your "hybrid" race will not exist. 

[AF-Wife]

I should explain myself too, using the definition afwife supplied...

Why freebird does not like using the word 'tolerate' on groups of people:

1) that even the thought of permitting/allowing someone to be Hmong, or gay, or a gay Hmong dating a gay White is presumptuous to say the least;
2) that disguising one's true belief, in this case, disapproval of someone's sexuality or race, behind the use of 'respect' is enough and will somehow remove her from the likes of people who are more loud, hateful, and in opposition of peoples right to love who they will, be who they are;
3) that there is something wrong with being homosexual or dating out of ones race; or to be Hmong, or Jew, or Christian, or Islamic, or ________.

People don't need your tolerance to exist. They need you to get off your holier than thou horse and see that you are both equal. You don't use words like tolerate when you see someone as your equal. That is the difference here.

Imagine a room full of people who tolerate your being Hmong vs. a room full of people who accept your being Hmong without any issue, bias, prejudice, etc.

I hope my point is clear enough. I'm glad we all know our vocabulary here. I hope our wisdom and knowledge increases so that we may learn how to use words appropriately.

After all, words can be very powerful.





[so much easier to type on a computer ^__^]

I see your point but than tolerate still seems to fit how I view certain things.  I agree, people do not need my tolerance to exist nor my respect nor my acceptance but it'll make the world a friendlier place to live.  Everyone has different views and opinions and it doesn't neccessarily mean I don't view them as an equal.  Tolerate does seem like a harsh word but in reality how do you precieve yourself to others?  If you don't think you're above or below others than the word tolerate shouldn't bother you, since we all know what the definition means.

[couchpotato]

I don't care.

It's not my life or my business what other people's sexual preferences are when it comes to interracial/homosexual relationships.

Why so many people make it their business is beyond my understanding.

[freebird]

I see your point but than tolerate still seems to fit how I view certain things.  I agree, people do not need my tolerance to exist nor my respect nor my acceptance but it'll make the world a friendlier place to live.  Everyone has different views and opinions and it doesn't neccessarily mean I don't view them as an equal.  Tolerate does seem like a harsh word but in reality how do you precieve yourself to others?  If you don't think you're above or below others than the word tolerate shouldn't bother you, since we all know what the definition means.

It's okay if you don't understand or are just being defensive about your use of the word.

[AF-Wife]

It's okay if you don't understand or are just being defensive about your use of the word.

Has nothing to do with not understanding, it's all about disagreeing. 

[freebird]

Has nothing to do with not understanding, it's all about disagreeing. 

But how can you claim to understand if you really don't?    Disagreeing is totally fine. You have your points and I have mine. Except, your last sentences were distortions of what I said, which I can say, seems to be drived from ignorance rather than malice so I chose not to address it.

In reality, in a tolerant friendly environment you imagined, people will smile at you and talk behind your back. It may be good enough for you. It's just not good enough for some of us.

[moo_cow]

They're two different subjects >_< lol I guess I didn't make that sound clear enough. Well the subject of homosexuallity is ok with me I believe its not a choice. And I have tons of homosexual men who are my friends and they're less drama than a woman friend. I mean they are drama but at least not with me lol.

However being hmong and dating another color for me is also another issue. My family apparently had a huge intervention about it. (which I didn't attend  ) But I feel like you really can't keep it pure anymore and, yes of course, the elderly are going to look down upon it. But what boogles me is why are younger generation parents of Thailand, educated in America so backwards about inter-racial marriage/dating? Not that I really care to what my selfish, self absorb side of the family thinks anymore. I just want them to see outside the box instead.

[non dormis]

i think both of equally of the same importance and i don't see anything wrong with neither of the two. why you may ask? because there is nothing wrong with the two. duh.

[Believe_N_Me]

I don't really care but if people are going to ask for an (my) opinion then they should be prepared to hear it.

[Believe_N_Me]

I've looked at a lot of statistics regarding Interracial marriages and I have to say that when it comes to Asians marrying non-Asians, all that talk about 'love' is bull crap. While there may be a few based on true love, the rest is really just out to gain some social status while fulfilling a self-loathing complex.

Why?

Well the statistics show an overwhelming number of Asian interracial marriages/relationships are with "white" people. The blacks and Latinos don't even make a dent.   You'd' think that if it was really just about love, the blacks and Latinos would get their fair share of Asian love.

Asians are attracted to "whites" for a very specific reason that goes beyond physical appearance. Social Status, nothing more and nothing less. If it was all about physical appearance then why not shoot for Indians or other Middle Eastern people who have caucasian features like the high-bridged nose and even height? Heck, Indian guys aren't too shabby either when it comes to being PhDs. Latinos are attractive and have Caucasian features, too.

Asians who marry whites have bought into the idea that "whites" are superior - plain and simple.  

And you know what else? It's probably the only non-Asian group their parents will actually accept for the said reason that such Asians think whites are superior.

[moonangel]

To me the word, tolerant, is usually used in a negative context, esp when it is about "being tolerant about homosexuals or mixed marriages".  It means you would not put yourself in a place where the majority are gay/lesbians (or mixed couples) if you had the choice.  In other words, you'd stay away from them at all cost but if you were to come across a few, you can handle them.

Personally, I like diversity.  As long as there's no violence, it's all good.

[non dormis]

To me the word, tolerant, is usually used in a negative context, esp when it is about "being tolerant about homosexuals or mixed marriages".  It means you would not put yourself in a place where the majority are gay/lesbians (or mixed couples) if you had the choice.  In other words, you'd stay away from them at all cost but if you were to come across a few, you can handle them.

Personally, I like diversity.  As long as there's no violence, it's all good.

that is why im barely tolerent of hmong people cause so many of them are ignorant and homophobic. like... geeez we dont live in lao or the 1800's no more. please keep up with evolution