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Energy Policy vs Reliance on Foreigners
« on: January 31, 2012, 03:13:52 PM »
Most electricity in america is generated with Coal.  Yet Obama said nothing about coals in his state of the union address.  Below are some sources.

http://www.sustainablebusiness.com/index.cfm/go/news.display/id/16956
http://www.coalisclean.com/
http://www.americaspower.org/
http://science.howstuffworks.com/environmental/green-science/clean-coal.htm
http://www.greatpointenergy.com/

America has more coal than anyone in the world!!!
http://www.energybulletin.net/node/45005

So why are we not shipping our energy out and why are we developing other people's energy?  We have enough energy to run our country but yet we want to buy oil?  Convert coal to electricity and use batteries to store them and operate cars and etc...  Why depend on foreign oil when the solution exists right at home with COAL?!?!?!?


THE INTERMEDIATE SOLUTION ON FOREIGN ENERGY POLICY IS RIGHT AT HOME WITH COAL...THE LONG TERM SOLUTION IS SOMETHING ELSE AND NOBODY KNOWS FOR SURE YET.



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Re: Energy Policy vs Reliance on Foreigners
« Reply #1 on: February 02, 2012, 04:54:45 PM »
Most electricity in america is generated with Coal.  Yet Obama said nothing about coals in his state of the union address.  Below are some sources.

http://www.sustainablebusiness.com/index.cfm/go/news.display/id/16956
http://www.coalisclean.com/
http://www.americaspower.org/
http://science.howstuffworks.com/environmental/green-science/clean-coal.htm
http://www.greatpointenergy.com/

America has more coal than anyone in the world!!!
http://www.energybulletin.net/node/45005

So why are we not shipping our energy out and why are we developing other people's energy?  We have enough energy to run our country but yet we want to buy oil?  Convert coal to electricity and use batteries to store them and operate cars and etc...  Why depend on foreign oil when the solution exists right at home with COAL?!?!?!?


THE INTERMEDIATE SOLUTION ON FOREIGN ENERGY POLICY IS RIGHT AT HOME WITH COAL...THE LONG TERM SOLUTION IS SOMETHING ELSE AND NOBODY KNOWS FOR SURE YET.


If he did... that would have defeated his alternative energy plans. He won't be able to lose billions of dollars on his alternative energy companies anymore...



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Re: Energy Policy vs Reliance on Foreigners
« Reply #2 on: February 02, 2012, 09:00:28 PM »
Because coal creates a ton of pollution.  I'm sure he doesn't want to encourage Global Warming.  Al Gore certainly wouldn't endorse him.



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Re: Energy Policy vs Reliance on Foreigners
« Reply #3 on: February 03, 2012, 02:22:50 AM »
Because coal creates a ton of pollution.  I'm sure he doesn't want to encourage Global Warming.  Al Gore certainly wouldn't endorse him.


Global Warming vs Strong Economy

Right now China, India and Australia are mostly powered by coal...  China and India owns have the majority of the population.  So you tell me...We are exporting coal like crazy and telling people not to use them.  So much contradiction all politics...201 1 saw high levels of coal export

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=U.S._coal_exports

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US coal exports increased rapidly in 2011, returning to levels not seen since the early 1990s,[1] and accelerating to keep up with rapidly rising global demand.

The U.S. is the world's forth-largest source of coal exports in the world, after Australia, Indonesia and Russia (1st, 2nd and 3rd, respectively). Unused port capacity on the east coast and major expansions proposed for the west coast mean that U.S. coal exports could rapidly overtake Indonesia and Russia.


We also have more coal than anyone on this planet with 25% of the world's coal.  So does it matter if we use coal or not?  It doesn't.

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“Because the impacts of CO2 emissions are global in nature, it makes no difference from a climate change perspective whether coal mined in Wyoming is consumed in Chicago or Shanghai,” said a July, 2011 report by the Columbia Law School’s Center for Climate Change. “With coal export volumes poised to increase dramatically in the near- to medium-term, circumstances call for more comprehensive legal and policy response.”


The reason for coal to drop can be due to new regulation like clean air act...which is good but doesn't matter according to the above quote.



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Re: Energy Policy vs Reliance on Foreigners
« Reply #4 on: February 03, 2012, 02:46:29 AM »
Because coal creates a ton of pollution.  I'm sure he doesn't want to encourage Global Warming.  Al Gore certainly wouldn't endorse him.
what is Coal....fact of the matter is, Coal is not a dirty as it used to be.. also, there are way to many VOTES to be lost in the Northwest if you start talking jobs in the Coal industry..



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Re: Energy Policy vs Reliance on Foreigners
« Reply #5 on: February 03, 2012, 04:33:10 PM »
So I was reading about COALS then commodities then labor market theory and blah blah blah (kinda bored at work - how hard is making these consumer product...EASY):)  I'm pretty obsessed with COALS for the past two years...I just sense COAL is the solution to our crisis.  Here is an except from Jim Roger this ultra wealthy guy.  Funny, I carry the same sentiments as he do about the 2006 and I urge so many not to buy a house and did they listen?  Nope...

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On November 4, 2010, at Oxford University’s Balliol College, he urged students to scrap career plans for Wall Street or the City, London’s financial district, and to study agriculture and mining instead. “The power is shifting again from the financial centers to the producers of real goods. The place to be is in commodities, raw materials, natural resources."[13]

In February 2011 Rogers announced that he has started a new index fund which focuses on "the top companies in agriculture, mining, metals and energy sectors as well as those in the alternative energy space including solar, wind and hydro."[14] The index is called The Rogers Global Resources Equity Index and according to Rogers, only the best and most liquid companies go into the index.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Rogers



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