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Re: Romney: Not focused on poor, they have safety net
« Reply #15 on: February 06, 2012, 12:00:19 PM »
hey guys.
Read this.

I believe that the poor are so much better off than the middle class.  We hmongs have taken this system to the best use.  Lets say we the poor who makes 24 and under are so much better off.  we get food stamps, medicare, and qualify for others.  Middle class makes more money, but they have to pay health care cost, buy food, and pay for others.  so in reality, the poor with no education wins.  They may not have nice houses, but they got it easy.  Middle class is struggling to make ends meet.  My brother's family is middle class and they can't afford to not miss one day of work. 900 on mortgage per month.  500 for health insurance, 600 for car payment, 200 for gas, 300 for food and others.  The middle class is losing out.
See the red flags?  So they're overspending and blaming it on the poor?  How many poor people have a 900/month mortgage?  How many have $600/month car payments?  Why not rent an apartment int he Ghettos adn buy a used car with cash instead of a two new cars for on credit?  Just because they don't know how to manage money doesn't make it the fault of the poor people.   ::) ::)



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Re: Romney: Not focused on poor, they have safety net
« Reply #16 on: February 06, 2012, 05:26:15 PM »
My safety net is that I have YAX and other well-to-do folks in the marriage forum.

Pay attention to whose making the big bucks, folks. Pay attention!  O0



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Re: Romney: Not focused on poor, they have safety net
« Reply #17 on: February 08, 2012, 02:31:15 PM »
I will count on your vote then. BNMe!



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Re: Romney: Not focused on poor, they have safety net
« Reply #18 on: February 14, 2012, 05:23:46 PM »

I guess the poor aren't so lucky after all, compared to the middle class...If you want someone to blame for the tax drain, blame OLD and DISABLE people, not the poor.



http://finance.yahoo.com/news/benefits-safety-net-163002159.html

..Who Benefits From the Safety Net

By BINYAMIN APPELBAUM and ROBERT GEBELOFF | New York Times – 5 hours ago
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A new analysis from the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities underscores that the poor are no longer the primary beneficiaries of the government safety net.

Terms like entitlements, government benefits and safety net often conjure images of tax dollars sliding from the hands of the wealthy into the pockets of the poor. But as we reported Sunday, that image is badly outdated. Benefits now flow primarily to the middle class.

The center's study found that the poorest American households, the bottom fifth, received just 32 cents of every dollar of government benefits distributed in 2010.

The finding is broadly consistent with the data we reported Sunday that the poorest households received 36 percent of benefits in 2007, down from 54 percent in 1979, numbers that came from a study published last year by the Congressional Budget Office.

While the findings are not directly comparable because of differences in methodology, the new study suggests that the recent recession did not cause any significant increase in the share of benefits flowing to the poor, as might once have been expected.

The study found that older people received slightly more than half of government benefits, while the nonelderly with disabilities received an additional 20 percent. These benefits are not means-tested - indeed, better-paid workers get more in Social Security.

Furthermore, the study notes that politicians have shifted benefits away from the "jobless poor," through reductions in traditional welfare, and increased benefits for working families, for example through tax credits. The government also has steadily expanded eligibility for benefit programs.

"The safety net became much more work-based," wrote Arloc Sherman and his collaborators at the center, a left-leaning research group. "In addition, the U.S. population is aging, which raises the share of benefits going to seniors and people with disabilities."

[Also see: States with the most homes in foreclosure]

Another finding of the study is that the distribution of benefits no longer aligns with the demography of poverty. African-Americans, who make up 22 percent of the poor, receive 14 percent of government benefits, close to their 12 percent population share.

White non-Hispanics, who make up 42 percent of the poor, receive 69 percent of government benefits - again, much closer to their 64 percent population share.






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Re: Romney: Not focused on poor, they have safety net
« Reply #19 on: February 14, 2012, 05:28:32 PM »
That article appears to undermine the Repubilcan theory of how things should work therefore I must declare it an attack on the Republican way of thinking and denounce it as a liberal ploy.  Thank you. come again.



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Re: Romney: Not focused on poor, they have safety net
« Reply #20 on: February 14, 2012, 05:44:18 PM »
That article appears to undermine the Repubilcan theory of how things should work therefore I must declare it an attack on the Republican way of thinking and denounce it as a liberal ploy.  Thank you. come again.

Lol...damn those liberals.



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Re: Romney: Not focused on poor, they have safety net
« Reply #21 on: February 16, 2012, 12:36:19 PM »
Excuse me for pointing out the obvious, but if people living on welfare are living better than you.  Wouldn't that make you "the poor".   ;D

I am very poor because I work hard and spend all my money paying bills.  I am poorer than the poor in the project housing but because my household income is above $60K, the government thinks I am middle class and don't need any handouts.    There are many poor middle class just like me that are struggling from day to day.  We should be the one the government pay attention to.  We should be the focus of debate.  Not the poor who got everything for FREE or the rich who don't need anything.   This coming election, I will vote for a candidate that will help the middle class.  I will NOT vote for candidate who promised more FREEBIES to the poor all paid for my the middle class.



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Re: Romney: Not focused on poor, they have safety net
« Reply #22 on: February 16, 2012, 12:45:42 PM »
I am very poor because I work hard and spend all my money paying bills.  I am poorer than the poor in the project housing but because my household income is above $60K, the government thinks I am middle class and don't need any handouts.    There are many poor middle class just like me that are struggling from day to day.  We should be the one the government pay attention to.  We should be the focus of debate.  Not the poor who got everything for FREE or the rich who don't need anything.   This coming election, I will vote for a candidate that will help the middle class.  I will NOT vote for candidate who promised more FREEBIES to the poor all paid for my the middle class.
  You really think Romney will do that?  HA!  He'll just say anything to get elected.  you watch and see for yourself.  As for being in debt.. That doesn't just happen.  You put yourself there through misuse and mismanagement of your finances.  However, there is something you can do.  It's called "declare bankruptcy".  It allows you to start over.  Most people just too afraid to do it, but it helps alot of people out.  Another alternative is to call your creditors and negotiate settlements.  I've done that for a few people I know.  It works.  Most people just don't care enough about their finances to look into options.  But they always complain about the poor folks owing less money than them.  Keep in mind, you got there because you spent and the poor people, they don't spend what they don't have.



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