Clearing up the bride price issue that so many do not understand

[chidorix0x]

"Nqi mi nqi hno no" luag ib co laus txhais tias- niam txiv txoj me kev iab kev daws; kev khwv tu me nkauj see loj hlob tiav niam no laib?

I could be wrong..

...  kekeke  ...   /

Errrr, yes wrong here (cannot mix apples and oranges yo)  ...  KEKEKE  ...   

"Kev iab kev daws" yog hais txog thiab nyob rau kab mob kev nkeeg/Kab Ke Pam Tuag xwb  ...  kekeke  ...  nws tsis hais txog thiab nyob rau Kab Tshoob Kev Kos[/b][/color]  ...  KEKEKE  ...   /   (Yog koj tsis paub los txhob txwm hais Cov Lus Nod rau ib rooj tshoob kev kawg mag  (nplua/chem/rhuav)  ...  kekeke  ...   )

In Hmong/Mong ceremonial/customary rites (weddings, funerals, and even casual events/dinners like shamanism, hu plig, ua noj xwb etc.), there are definitive (acceptable and unacceptable) ettiquettes (consequences) that are upheld.  Some are more stringent than others.  Yes, this includes the verbiage/words used when someone is speaking.  And more importanty when he is addressing dignitaries  ...  kekeke  ...     Failure to adhere to these social norms/expectations can have/lead to dire consequences -- for you and others etc..  More so on you, as a "poser", aka a  "BASIC knowledge" nincompoop ...  KEKEKE  ...   

[NeejYagHawj]

all it took was one question to you...and you failed...shoul d we leave it as that?

[chidorix0x]

the purpose of this post is to show that there is no "bride price" at all; it is more of an "exchange" of people and possessions and unity through life and death.  others who are less familiar of the tradition would say "but there is only one woman exchanged!"  the fact of the matter is, before the groom leaves the bride's house, he already "vowed" that if he has girls, then "inlaws" will get first choice....this is why it is an exchange of people, animals, and assets.

...  kekeke  ...   /

Where does this "BASIC knowledge" (Yag) nincompoop get, have learned, and have being taught (and by whom or what) this "FULL of BS" crap, fecal matter, and cow-dung nonsense from  ...  KEKEKE  ...   

This  crap, fecal matter, and cow-dung nonsense is one of the most ridiculous, utterly most preposterous, and arguably most ignorant/idiotic "lost in translation" or garbage being re-imagined/spewed thus far on PH  ...  kekeke  ...     ...     ...   

Yag, u truly have "no shame" in self-incriminating your idiocy with your "BASIC knowledge" imaginary crap, nonsense, and garbage   ...  KEKEKE  ...     (Get off, or rather "BACK ON" your meds yo  ...  kekeke  ...   )

[yuknowthat]

...  kekeke  ...   /

Errrr, yes wrong here (cannot mix apples and oranges yo)  ...  KEKEKE  ...   

"Kev iab kev daws" yog hais txog thiab nyob rau kab mob kev nkeeg/Kab Ke Pam Tuag xwb  ...  kekeke  ...  nws tsis hais txog thiab nyob rau Kab Tshoob Kev Kos[/b][/color]  ...  KEKEKE  ...   /   (Yog koj tsis paub los txhob txwm hais Cov Lus Nod rau ib rooj tshoob kev kawg mag  (nplua/chem/rhuav)  ...  kekeke  ...   )

In Hmong/Mong ceremonial/customary rites (weddings, funerals, and even casual events/dinners like shamanism, hu plig, ua noj xwb etc.), there are definitive (acceptable and unacceptable) ettiquettes (consequences) that are upheld.  Some are more stringent than others.  Yes, this includes the verbiage/words used when someone is speaking.  And more importanty when he is addressing dignitaries  ...  kekeke  ...     Failure to adhere to these social norms/expectations can have/lead to dire consequences -- for you and others etc..  More so on you, as a "poser", aka a  "BASIC knowledge" nincompoop ...  KEKEKE  ...   

lmbo.. vim li ntawv thiaj tso rau nej cov ua paub hauj lwm thiab ntse mus ua.. es peb nyob pem no ntsia xwb mas!

Vim tsam lawm hnub wb hos sib ntsib, txog wb thib ua ke. Kuv ua thiab hais yuamkev ces Mag Kua Nceb! Lol

[chidorix0x]

lmbo.. vim li ntawv thiaj tso rau nej cov ua paub hauj lwm thiab ntse mus ua.. es peb nyob pem no ntsia xwb mas!

Vim tsam lawm hnub wb hos sib ntsib, txog wb thib ua ke. Kuv ua thiab hais yuamkev ces Mag Kua Nceb! Lol

...  kekeke  ...   /

Peb tej nod tsis nrog tus ub tus nod ua ub ua nod ua paub ua ntse "Mag Kua Nceb" laid.  Tiam sis peb tsuas nrog Hmoob/Moob khaws, kawm, thiab xyaum/soj ntsuam Hmoob/Moob tej kab lis kev cai (txuj ci), kev txawj kev ntse, thiab kev ua neeg/neej Hmoob/Moob xwb.  Qhov zoo peb kuj tias zoo -- coj los kawm, xyaum, ua etc..  Qhov tsis zoo peb kuj ho nrog saib, nrog kho, nrog hloov kom xws lub teb lub chaws xwb  ...  KEKEKE  ...     (Not like some "BASIC knowledge" posers/cuav/cuam  uas hais/tham tom ntej tom qab tsis muaj paus muaj ntsis  ...  kekeke  ...   )

[chidorix0x]

i choose to believe in the literal term...the actual cost of the wife...she's a material I bought for myself, I own her.  this would deter others from stealing her from me and she know who her master is!  j/k.

...  kekeke  ...   /

In truth (to some degree -- arguably), this is not too from the actual reality (at least historically, within and throughout SEAsia, or of that era, pre-1975 and post even) --  the sole intended application, purpose, and usage of the "bride price".  Why do you suppose some Hmong/Mong girls/wives, today in the USA/West, had been and were priced as high at $25K+ (and some "greedy/stingy" parents are even arguing/fighting for those prices nowadays too; especially for the edumacated ones; doctors, lawyers, social workers, go-go dancers etc., including the pretty/prettier ones like those MISS Whatcha-Call-Ems -- the pageant winners/losers)  ...  KEKEKE  ...   

(Pre-USA/West, there are known records/accounts of girls/ladies, perhaps even your own mom/s, aunts, and grandmas were priced/bought for "20-30+ Silver Bars".  And that was just the "bride price", excluding all other expenses.  Who knows how $much$ all that silver is in US-Dollars in today's market  ...  kekeke  ...   )

[NeejYagHawj]

chi..

you are finally correct....got smarter over 2 hours, taht's pretty good.  BUT...ONLY in teh usa and of coruse, those who are after money