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Re: Temple of Hmongism
« Reply #15 on: January 03, 2015, 01:09:28 PM »
No! They all are different scam (loonies), so-called cultural reformers,  or crazies  ... kekeke ...  >:D ( Take your pick.)

There's a new group in the name of Siv Yis now.  Saw their Utube ad ... kekeke ...  :idiot2:

Never heard of these 2 groups mentioned.. But hey, probably not worth looking at anyway. :D

I recall hearing about a religious group (cult) several years ago. It attempts to combine shamanism with a place of worship.
So basically almost all the shaman values are there, except you also go to this place (like a church) to worship a "Shaman God."

The guy kept spouting about how powerful the god is and how he'll smite nonbelievers. called him out on it and said for his god to smite me if he's so powerful.
He never responded. XD


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Re: Temple of Hmongism
« Reply #16 on: January 04, 2015, 02:59:59 AM »
Never heard of these 2 groups mentioned.. But hey, probably not worth looking at anyway. :D

I recall hearing about a religious group (cult) several years ago. It attempts to combine shamanism with a place of worship.
So basically almost all the shaman values are there, except you also go to this place (like a church) to worship a "Shaman God."

The guy kept spouting about how powerful the god is and how he'll smite nonbelievers. called him out on it and said for his god to smite me if he's so powerful.
He never responded. XD

U do no that "Siv Yis" is the Hmong "Shaman God", more or less, right?  (And this is where, or is the origin/root, of those Hmong/HA'Mung Christians/crASStians/Pastors/bastards argument, or idiotic rant that a Hmong shaman's altar, is Hmong people's way of idol/devil worshipping  ...   :idiot2:  ...  but that is off topic and completely another topic/thread in itself.)

Pesonally, I do NOT CARE whatsoever about any/all of these looney characters/cons and their delusional reinventions of the wheel; be it PKYN, Hmongism, Shaman God, Hmong/HA'Mung Christianity (CMA, C-whatever) etc. etc..  But here is where I do have some CONCERNS, in the interest and betterment/harmony of all things Hmong.  And I will just mention a few.  (Yes!  I get that everyone, Hmong and HA'Mung, believes they are entitled to Freedom of Speech, Freedom of Religion, and Freedom of Idiocy/Lunacy because we live in the USA and are gauranteed those rights by law -- via the Constituion.  Sure.  Whatever!)  Point is, the LOT of these looney characters/cons -- the overwhelming majority, or ALL, that is pretty certain -- are first and foremost, the LEAST knowledgeable and least authoritative about their delusional reinventions, and practically ALL that they know, or whatever they claim to know, is purely/mainly rooted in Western ideals, consciousness, semi or poor academics, misunderstood/misinterpreted doctrines, questionalbe training, infomercials, street smarts, home schooled, and worst offense of all is scam/con used cars' salesman convictions and/or mindsets and sole purpose -- that is to make a penny or two.  Just look at all of these characters, it is pretty obvious where their age group falls in.  That in itself says A LOT already.  Secondly, I am concern about how they are/have demonized any/all Hmong-centric practices, beliefs, customs, and cultures; peppering them with subtle, alluring, and superficial Western bows, packaging, and grandiose verbiage.  No BIG DEAL right?  WRONG!  This idiocy is criminal (highly offensive) on two very simple principles, among many.  One, it makes Hmong people overall look stupid, now living in the USA, arguably one of the most advanced nation in the world where education, intellect, development, and social/ethnicity identity/pride is next to none.  (And that is putting it kindly.)  Two, it is creating ever more ignorant, naive, gullible, reverse-discriminating narrowminded HA'Mung (PHers ...  :2funny:); those who would cluelessly bastardize their own people, culture, customs etc., thanks to all of these moronic looney buffoons/nitwit who have created, spearheaded, and possibly perpetuating all the internal/external dissension in the Hmong-verse.  This is one of the major reasons why Hmong as a whole have such hate laced with separatist groups, cults, internal fighting, and community, social, and political turmoil.  (I will end on this note.)



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Re: Temple of Hmongism
« Reply #17 on: January 04, 2015, 01:19:29 PM »
U do no that "Siv Yis" is the Hmong "Shaman God", more or less, right?  (And this is where, or is the origin/root, of those Hmong/HA'Mung Christians/crASStians/Pastors/bastards argument, or idiotic rant that a Hmong shaman's altar, is Hmong people's way of idol/devil worshipping  ...   :idiot2:  ...  but that is off topic and completely another topic/thread in itself.)



Yes I know he is the Hmong Shaman God.  But when it came to this particular post.  He was never referenced by name. was always just said to be the Shaman God. So who knows, maybe the person was idiotic enough to believe there was some other shaman god or the god had no name and is only known as "Shaman God".

If only the site didn't crash and go offline I'd link it for you.



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Re: Temple of Hmongism
« Reply #18 on: February 12, 2015, 10:15:37 AM »
Hmongism should be renamed yuephengism  :idiot2: :idiot2:

It's so stupid. Why reduce rituals when you can just not follow it? What significant does a Hmong religion have left if we take start taking parts of it out? And he claims Hmong religion isn't shamanism  :idiot2: :idiot2:



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Re: Temple of Hmongism
« Reply #19 on: April 07, 2015, 11:36:36 PM »
Hmong very intelligent group of people can do anything over night



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Re: Temple of Hmongism
« Reply #20 on: April 08, 2015, 01:51:23 AM »
People who like to scam can do anything over night

Fixed it for you.



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