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College folks... Question for you.
« on: January 13, 2015, 09:36:43 PM »
If you're going to college [or not], see if you can answer this...

Pretend you're a professor or instructor and you're teaching a first year class.  You have several students who came to class on the first and second days, but then stopped coming.  They haven't turned in any assignments either.  They didn't drop out of your class.

Question is:
1.  Why do you think they'd do this?
2.  Do you think there's any way you can motivate them to come to class?  Perhaps call them and ask?  What would you ask? 




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Re: College folks... Question for you.
« Reply #1 on: January 14, 2015, 10:18:07 AM »
Your grading scale may have some influence.

If you have a curve:  The students may be trying to manipulate it by trying less, enforcing a large curve for an easier grade.

If you put a large grade impact on mostly your exams (ex. exam 1 = 33%, exam 2 = 33%, quiz = 14%, assignments = 20%):  I can pass your class with at best a B- without ever turning in an assignment and showing up only do your quiz and exams.

If you want to motivate your students, ask them at the beginning and end of each semester.  Have them write down on paper what they think of the class, what they want/wanted to learn, what they thought was great and wasn't so great.  Foster an environment worth coming to class to learn.



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Re: College folks... Question for you.
« Reply #2 on: January 14, 2015, 10:47:00 PM »
If you're going to college [or not], see if you can answer this...

Pretend you're a professor or instructor and you're teaching a first year class.  You have several students who came to class on the first and second days, but then stopped coming.  They haven't turned in any assignments either.  They didn't drop out of your class.

Question is:
1.  Why do you think they'd do this?
2.  Do you think there's any way you can motivate them to come to class?  Perhaps call them and ask?  What would you ask?

some things to consider.

When you say first year class. what does that mean?
I ask because. at my school. there were classes called "First Year Seminars" they have different categories for each. but they were non-transferrable elective courses. I didn't take it cause it sounded pointless.

But as Dark said. what is your grading scale?

I've had several classes where there is no attendance. there is barely any homework or the homework is only worth 1% of the grade, so they only show up during the tests/quizzes/midterms/finals.

From my experience. most of them would already got a WU (unnoficial withdrawal) which i'm told is worse than failing.
most of my classes were. 1-3 unexcused absences. after that you get doc half a grade. once you hit that F, it becomes an automatic WU. get too many WU and you'll be dropped from the school.
I think its school policy. after 2 weeks you can't add unless you get a professor's note. after the 3rd or 4th week. you can't drop without a professor's note.
I have only dropped 1 class my entire 5 years of college and it was my very last semester too that I dropped a course.

any way to answer your question.

1. the grading. if attendance isn't important than they probably think "hey i can study on my own. why go to class if you don't need to?" Some people prioritize other events. and some just don't care.

2. well, make attendance count. extra credit and so on. 
Ideas that has worked and I've seen used.
My nutrition professor: She doesn't take attendance.  but we should expect a quiz every wednesday.  It covers the notes we went over on monday and the readings from the homework. so you have to come on monday to take it.

My Gov. teacher: Quiz every week. he takes attendance every day.  they are worth a huge chunk of your grade. he hands them out at the end of class. And then every now and then he would swap and give the quiz first. and the attendance later, that way he'll know, if you weren't there. you lose points for leaving early.

My art teacher: quiz every week.  The quizzes are on the painting from the book, but only the ones that we went over in the class prior.

So i guess it just varies the class.




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Re: College folks... Question for you.
« Reply #3 on: January 21, 2015, 11:19:44 AM »
1. Collect free Financial Aid?

2. No motivation?


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Re: College folks... Question for you.
« Reply #4 on: January 28, 2015, 10:49:56 PM »
they could be having a personal problem and decided to drop out without officially dropping out.  it could be video game addiction, mental illness, or relationship problem.  i suggest the instructor email the student.  some students are ashame to tell you their problems.



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Re: College folks... Question for you.
« Reply #5 on: September 12, 2017, 12:08:27 PM »
Some people apply for jr College.  Then they don't bother to go to class or put any effort into it.  Why do people waste their time like that?   Mental issues?



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Re: College folks... Question for you.
« Reply #6 on: September 12, 2017, 12:41:23 PM »
Get the unit to collect financial aid money. 

There were a few classes that I only showed up on 3 occasions.

First day roll call
Quizzes
Exams

Instructor don't care.  They still get payed.

Lucky for me, I got tips lead from previous students to who classes to take.  Now if u pH all day n flunking a class, that's a problem. 




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Re: College folks... Question for you.
« Reply #7 on: September 25, 2017, 06:25:46 PM »
Yeap, when I was going to school...

Some people would just do it for the money...

It was something like theyd get financial aid...

But they knew that if they disenrolled within a certain time frame theyd get 75 percent refund.

The systen was set up like...

Well it was set up so you couldnt take the the finacial aid out right, you had to go to school to get it...

So people did the loophole thing to get at least 75 percent back.  Once you got the refund you could use it however...

Man..i saw alot of students do that...and some wasnt even real students...  they just did it for the money...in a way its like fraud.



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I went through all 15k posts and those 2 quotes I found were the only ones so I guess that would make it "everytime".  Feel free to go through all 15k posts and verify by quoting them all.  You need to quote them all to verifying prove "everytime".   Please verify that Im wrong.

 

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