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I remember way back in the day when I was just stocking shelves at a grocery store for like... 7 dollars an hour or something like that...


I guess that was a lot of money back then to a kid back then. 

In any case... I remember being offered 10 bucks an hour to go work in the produce dept.  Where I was growing up/living in, 10 bucks an hour is not bad, it's actually pretty good.  You find any job that paid around 10 bucks an hour and you're living large, especially if you're still young.  But I declined it becuase I knew I wouldn't be at work all the time and would miss work etc etc so I just told the guy no. 

Anyways... on to my story!  I was stocking shelves on 3rd shift and it was break time.  So we all gather round the break area and this guy who was a friend of one of the stock clerk had come to visit him and talk to him.  He was telling him about how he's going to college now and about to graduate and already got a job lined up as an electrical engineer with a starting pay of 17.50.    The way he was saying it made it seemed like it was such a huge pay per hour.  Honestly, at that time and area, it really was a nice big pay per hour.  I remember thinking wow, that's alot of money. 

It's weird now that the minimun wage is going to be 15 bucks an hour, for working a job like washing the dishes at KFC or taking orders at Mcdonalds, their pay is going to be comparable to that of college degree-ed folks 15-20 years ago. 

I remember listening to a truck driver talking proudly of how his son is going to be making 40 thousand a year after he's put him to college.

I took this girl to her work place, she had asked me if I could take her, she had just gotten hired on to a new job(she was pretty good looking by the way, I guess I felt she was "too old" for me, she was only like mid 20's).  She was a classmate and we were all in the same physics and calc classes...  It was weird, a couple of the 'older' students in there were talking about how after they got done with their calc classes they'll be able to get hired on here and there.  I just found it perplexing how a class could do that but anyways!  The girl was telling me she was getting a job paying her 11 bucks an hour.  She was proud and excited too, and I was happy for her too. 

Like I said, that area and time I was growing up, 11 bucks an hour is alot of money.

Also, this older gentleman in my calc class, he was talking about how when he got done with his calc class, when he goes to get a job, he's taking no less than 10 bucks an hour. 

I worked for many companies, one company, I worked as a temp worker.  I got paid like 11 bucks an hour or something... anyways, the permanent workers got paid like 14-15 bucks an hour and some even 17 bucks an hour if they had a 4 year degree or something since they were in charge of "more complex" parts of the company.  Anyways, I remember one of the guy had just bought a new EVO.  This was way back then, and I was thinking "wow, that's what 17 bucks an hour can afford!"

My point with all these reference's is... it's sorta strange in a way how I see the wage, per hour kind of like being devalued.  11, 12,15,17,17.50 bucks an hour back in the day was like, you'd have to go to school and put some time in to get a pay like that, and a pay like that is really good pay, it's a pay everyone strived for and hoped for, kind of like a dream everyone can attain but you had to put some work in first.   

Now it seems like everyone wants that 15 bucks an hour handed to them reguardless of they put the work in or not and not only that, like that 15 bucks an hour is not just equivalent to a fast food job, where-as just 20 years ago it was equivalent to working a job that required a degree. 

How strange huh?

There's really no debate here, just something to think and ponder about.




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Re: Speaking of the minimun wage going up to 15 bucks an hour...
« Reply #1 on: April 23, 2016, 11:57:10 PM »
I remember way back in the day when I was just stocking shelves at a grocery store for like... 7 dollars an hour or something like that...


I guess that was a lot of money back then to a kid back then. 

In any case... I remember being offered 10 bucks an hour to go work in the produce dept.  Where I was growing up/living in, 10 bucks an hour is not bad, it's actually pretty good.  You find any job that paid around 10 bucks an hour and you're living large, especially if you're still young.  But I declined it becuase I knew I wouldn't be at work all the time and would miss work etc etc so I just told the guy no. 

Anyways... on to my story!  I was stocking shelves on 3rd shift and it was break time.  So we all gather round the break area and this guy who was a friend of one of the stock clerk had come to visit him and talk to him.  He was telling him about how he's going to college now and about to graduate and already got a job lined up as an electrical engineer with a starting pay of 17.50.    The way he was saying it made it seemed like it was such a huge pay per hour.  Honestly, at that time and area, it really was a nice big pay per hour.  I remember thinking wow, that's alot of money. 

It's weird now that the minimun wage is going to be 15 bucks an hour, for working a job like washing the dishes at KFC or taking orders at Mcdonalds, their pay is going to be comparable to that of college degree-ed folks 15-20 years ago. 

I remember listening to a truck driver talking proudly of how his son is going to be making 40 thousand a year after he's put him to college.

I took this girl to her work place, she had asked me if I could take her, she had just gotten hired on to a new job(she was pretty good looking by the way, I guess I felt she was "too old" for me, she was only like mid 20's).  She was a classmate and we were all in the same physics and calc classes...  It was weird, a couple of the 'older' students in there were talking about how after they got done with their calc classes they'll be able to get hired on here and there.  I just found it perplexing how a class could do that but anyways!  The girl was telling me she was getting a job paying her 11 bucks an hour.  She was proud and excited too, and I was happy for her too. 

Like I said, that area and time I was growing up, 11 bucks an hour is alot of money.

Also, this older gentleman in my calc class, he was talking about how when he got done with his calc class, when he goes to get a job, he's taking no less than 10 bucks an hour. 

I worked for many companies, one company, I worked as a temp worker.  I got paid like 11 bucks an hour or something... anyways, the permanent workers got paid like 14-15 bucks an hour and some even 17 bucks an hour if they had a 4 year degree or something since they were in charge of "more complex" parts of the company.  Anyways, I remember one of the guy had just bought a new EVO.  This was way back then, and I was thinking "wow, that's what 17 bucks an hour can afford!"

My point with all these reference's is... it's sorta strange in a way how I see the wage, per hour kind of like being devalued.  11, 12,15,17,17.50 bucks an hour back in the day was like, you'd have to go to school and put some time in to get a pay like that, and a pay like that is really good pay, it's a pay everyone strived for and hoped for, kind of like a dream everyone can attain but you had to put some work in first.   

Now it seems like everyone wants that 15 bucks an hour handed to them reguardless of they put the work in or not and not only that, like that 15 bucks an hour is not just equivalent to a fast food job, where-as just 20 years ago it was equivalent to working a job that required a degree. 

How strange huh?

There's really no debate here, just something to think and ponder about.

$15/hr is not going to work for all. Imagine if you live in NY, or CA... what does $15/hr get you? Nothing much... beside, these minimum wage jobs are for teenagers not for a person to make a living on it. I wonder if you bump these burger flipper to $15/hr, what about those that actually work in manufacturing that are only getting $10-$12/hr. Are we to increase their pay by the same margin as well?



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Re: Speaking of the minimun wage going up to 15 bucks an hour...
« Reply #2 on: April 24, 2016, 03:27:39 AM »
I am going to quit my job n go on unemployment for the next 5 years and when i am ready to wk, i get 15 bucks an hour regardless. 

There goes my incentive to work harder in the next 5 years.  In 5 years and if it is 15 bucks an hour, as a fast food manager, they will fill their staff with all mba holder first.  Imagine a fast food joint where all the workers there have a high degree. 

The law is the law and they will comply but the law does not make a hiring manager downgrade their hiring process and give away that 15 bucks an hour that easily.  Who will get fawk in the end?  The non degree holder. 



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Re: Speaking of the minimun wage going up to 15 bucks an hour...
« Reply #3 on: April 28, 2016, 10:41:51 AM »
I made $4.10 when I was 16 at Dunkin' Donuts.  I thought that was a lot because my mom made $3 doing assembly work and my dad made $6 and he worked for the city.

My dad is retired now but he was making more than $15 by the time he retired.  If my mom worked now and made $15 an hour.  That would be so good for her.



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« Reply #4 on: April 28, 2016, 10:46:56 AM »
I am going to quit my job n go on unemployment for the next 5 years and when i am ready to wk, i get 15 bucks an hour regardless. 

There goes my incentive to work harder in the next 5 years.  In 5 years and if it is 15 bucks an hour, as a fast food manager, they will fill their staff with all mba holder first.  Imagine a fast food joint where all the workers there have a high degree. 

The law is the law and they will comply but the law does not make a hiring manager downgrade their hiring process and give away that 15 bucks an hour that easily.  Who will get fawk in the end?  The non degree holder.

You really shouldn't think like that.  Find something you enjoy doing and make it into a job and the money will come or go into medical.  You'll definitely make more than $15.  Even back in the days (mid-90's) the office manager at the clinic I worked at made $17 per hour.



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Re: Speaking of the minimun wage going up to 15 bucks an hour...
« Reply #5 on: May 02, 2016, 04:59:07 PM »
Some people actually don't want to make $15/hr because that will bump them up to where they won't qualify to get food stamps or aid from the county anymore. For me, $15 for kids on summer job is good, but for anything else, it's still not enough to live on if you have a family. Many of us make more than 3x that amount and we still live paycheck to paycheck, taking out CC debts here and there as well.



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Re: Speaking of the minimun wage going up to 15 bucks an hour...
« Reply #6 on: May 03, 2016, 11:34:38 AM »
$15/hr is not going to work for all. Imagine if you live in NY, or CA... what does $15/hr get you? Nothing much... beside, these minimum wage jobs are for teenagers not for a person to make a living on it. I wonder if you bump these burger flipper to $15/hr, what about those that actually work in manufacturing that are only getting $10-$12/hr. Are we to increase their pay by the same margin as well?

$15 is tough but when there is 2 income in the household but cost of living just depend where they are.  It like me telling my sister in the Bay Area to get a job here vs. staying there when you get more out of your money because the pay is not much difference.  People think that just because you're in the Bay Area you get top $$ but no unless you have a corporate job then you would suffered with the cost of living.



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Re: Speaking of the minimun wage going up to 15 bucks an hour...
« Reply #7 on: May 03, 2016, 06:05:03 PM »
I never worked since I got married for almost 20 yrs.  My 1st part time job while in college was just $6.50 probably the min wage at that time.  It wasn't enough for anything beside gas and personal spending while still getting financial aid. 




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Re: Speaking of the minimun wage going up to 15 bucks an hour...
« Reply #8 on: May 03, 2016, 06:20:08 PM »
There is a min wages but there is no max numbers u can work in a day unless you are in the transportation industry where dept of trans limited your driving or flying hours per day.  Still not against the law to wk as many jobs as you are able to within a 24hrs period.  15 bux times 2 equals $30 an hour total wages per day.  You will be ok.  Both u n your partners do this and it'll be $60 an hour.  You no specialist but you can be one if you can hop from fast food to fast food.  It is the fast food workers dream in 5 years considering if all else is constant like the standard of living with no increase.  With a proven working track record with a high total monthly income and good credit, Ronald McDonald's now can afford his own first home. 

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Re: Speaking of the minimun wage going up to 15 bucks an hour...
« Reply #9 on: May 03, 2016, 06:37:56 PM »
Fuel to the Fire....

Since people keep talking about how much money they (or their parents) made when they were younger, consider this:  Minimum wage in 1990 was $3.80.  Factor in inflation and buying power, that is about $7 in 2016.  Minimum wage in 2016, $7.25. 

 



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Re: Speaking of the minimun wage going up to 15 bucks an hour...
« Reply #10 on: May 03, 2016, 07:11:53 PM »
Fuel to the Fire....

Since people keep talking about how much money they (or their parents) made when they were younger, consider this:  Minimum wage in 1990 was $3.80.  Factor in inflation and buying power, that is about $7 in 2016.  Minimum wage in 2016, $7.25.

My dad stop working 2 weeks ago.  He was getting the min. wage of $7/8 in CA.  He worked 12 hrs shift 6 days a week.  Those 4 additional hour are not OT paid at all just regular.  He get paid each week.  The only thing is that the job does not have benefits.  Just minor tax to state, federal, medicare, etc.  probably not even more than $100 each check so still bringing home $400 each week average.  He has to keep working to age 65 to retired and get medicare which is the most important thing he need.  My dad worked for this company for 21-23 yrs.  The min. wage has not change at all.





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Re: Speaking of the minimun wage going up to 15 bucks an hour...
« Reply #11 on: May 03, 2016, 09:10:41 PM »
Fuel to the Fire....

Since people keep talking about how much money they (or their parents) made when they were younger, consider this:  Minimum wage in 1990 was $3.80.  Factor in inflation and buying power, that is about $7 in 2016.  Minimum wage in 2016, $7.25.

yep... these $15/hr is going to put a lot of people out of work... that's all it's going to do. The Union knew it was a bad idea when they fought for it. Now, they're forcing CA law makers to make exception for Union members to not get paid $15/hr. How's that for your hard earned union dues. They want to shortchanged their members so they can keep their members in check... more cash in their pockets.



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Re: Speaking of the minimun wage going up to 15 bucks an hour...
« Reply #12 on: May 03, 2016, 09:11:14 PM »
Wow such sad stories!  Yet all our parents was able to make it even with 4-6 kids! 

Able to afford a house and two vehicles....


Hmmmmmmmm....  Go figure!



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Re: Speaking of the minimun wage going up to 15 bucks an hour...
« Reply #13 on: May 04, 2016, 08:10:14 AM »
If machines replace people then the engineering field will be booming!  O0 We are not far from this ideal image.

The state of MN is getting a cost of living raise in July, but guest what, it means taxes are going up!



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Re: Speaking of the minimun wage going up to 15 bucks an hour...
« Reply #14 on: May 04, 2016, 11:38:48 AM »
If machines replace people then the engineering field will be booming!  O0 We are not far from this ideal image.

The state of MN is getting a cost of living raise in July, but guest what, it means taxes are going up!

Pretty much like chromebook in school is already taken place so probably no need for school to be open M-F anymore.  I hate how school is nowadays.  My kids tell me they have no hw when I tell them it is hw time.  I don't care how good their progress report card look because I am not seeing some real learning.  Look like teacher are becoming lazy preparing assignment/schoolwork with the chromebook.



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