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Offline YAX

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Re: So seriously, how are we building wealth in our communities?
« Reply #15 on: October 04, 2016, 10:12:51 PM »
hey, those parties are good for the community.



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Re: So seriously, how are we building wealth in our communities?
« Reply #16 on: October 05, 2016, 11:48:41 AM »
Why separate the races?  It's a mix of everyone.  Given the availability of a good education and freedom, anything is possible for anyone.  And, why only fund Hmong things?  Fund what you are passionate about that isn't related to culture or race.  You might open doors to greater things.



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Re: So seriously, how are we building wealth in our communities?
« Reply #17 on: October 21, 2016, 07:45:07 PM »
hmong people are chicken coops and marijuana. maybe that's a start?



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Re: So seriously, how are we building wealth in our communities?
« Reply #18 on: November 29, 2016, 03:35:44 AM »
You're gonna need more than 9 cents to invest.  Two nickels is already too much for you.   :2funny:

That's 9 cents more than you.  :2funny:



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Re: So seriously, how are we building wealth in our communities?
« Reply #19 on: December 28, 2016, 03:02:08 PM »
Hmong culture is very secretive about relevant talents and skills because we only want to pass it down to our family.  Until our culture overcome this barrier we cannot make the great leap.  Think about HND.  The topics of discussion is about going to college and succeeding in college.  Where is the HND for Hmong professionals and entrepreneurs?  There is not and there won't be one because the barrier is our culture.  Why should store A share its secret of monetizing openly so store B can equalize the playing field?  Store A will not.  This is the traditional predicament within game theory.  How do we overcome our self interest, per Adam Smith, and move towards the self and group per John Nash?


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Re: So seriously, how are we building wealth in our communities?
« Reply #20 on: January 16, 2017, 11:14:28 AM »
How about hemp farming?  I see a lot of growth potential in this, and it is using a skill which most of us, or rather our parents, are familiar with (farming).



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Re: So seriously, how are we building wealth in our communities?
« Reply #21 on: August 13, 2019, 10:06:46 PM »
This thread is old but I want to share my thoughts.

I, too, am envious of the groups of people that can really stick together and support each other, because they share a common goal.  Groups like the Jews and the Viets.

I am particularly awed by the Jews' early foresight and game plan.  They got in early and niched themselves in the banking and film industries.  They saw that controlling the banking and film industries was going to be the most effective way of building wealth and securing a better and more prosperous future for their people.  Once they established themselves in those industries, they used their successes to the betterment of their people: they lent money to only other fellow Jews at low rates and helped out their fellow struggling Jews by being there for each other, etc.  This is why the Jews are so rich and successful today.  They supported each other and built each other up post-Holocaust.

I wish Hmong people had this same mindset: to work together for the betterment of our people; those that have wealth would lend at low interest rates to other fellow Hmongs; lift and support each other toward a common goal of seeing the Hmong people as a whole reach success and wealth.  Unfortunately, we are not like that.  Everyone is for themselves.  But, we also didn't go through what the Jews went through as a people.  They endured the Holocaust and countless other hardships and struggles as a people, which bound them more tightly together toward a common goal: to never be in a vulnerable position again and allow other people to mistreat them.  They understood that money was power.

Anyway, it was asked What is the one thing that Hmong people can take ownership of and claim that we are good at?  The first thing that comes to mind is farming.  Our parents were farmers and were great at farming.  People in our generation still have the affinity for farming if we applied ourselves because most of us inherited that farming know-how from our parents.  Now, whether farming is a viable field for us to get into and make it as the thing that we are known for, I don't know the answer to that.  We are organic farmers, not commercial farmers.  But there is big money to be made in organic food, so that can be an area that we can explore further if we wanted to.  We already have the affinity, we just need to arm ourselves with the tools, skills, and knowledge to make it sustainable and profitable long-term.  So, whaddaya say, my fellow Hmong people?  Should we come together as a people toward the common goal of ensuring the future wealth and success of our people and our children?  Shall we start by buying land and starting organic farms?  Once we acquire wealth from organic farming, shall we commit to lending at low rates to only our fellow Hmongs, and shall we commit to helping each other the way the Jews did for one another?


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Re: So seriously, how are we building wealth in our communities?
« Reply #22 on: September 05, 2019, 05:46:21 AM »
^^^

You seem to be the only one who truly understood the nature of my question. For a long time the Jews did not have a country of their own either. Yet, wherever they went they seemed to do well for themselves. They were able to create a real sense of community for themselves and operate as if they were their own country. Sometimes they didn't have a choice due to discrimination against them. The early Chinese in America followed the same suit when discriminatory laws and practices kept them out of mainstream society. They also found a niche market, established their own lending practices, gave themselves job opportunities, etc. The Hmong are not doing this enough or at the very least not quickly enough. We seem to keep looking to the government or white people to do this for us. We are making the same mistakes as blacks in America.

We vote for political candidates who promise to be that conduit to government services instead of candidates who will deregulate so that it's easier for us to work for ourselves. When Chinese, Jews, and East Indians speak of discrimination in America, they are talking about practices that target their businesses and their leadership. They aren't exactly asking for white people to give them an opportunity but rather for white people to get out of their way. When we, blacks, and Hispanics speak about discrimination, we are asking for white people to help us and include us into their fold. We may think that we are leaders of our own group, but much of that is funded by anybody else but our own group.




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Re: So seriously, how are we building wealth in our communities?
« Reply #23 on: September 09, 2019, 09:02:31 AM »
^^^

Relax man
Hmong folk only been here since the 70s
Still are in the first generation if you don’t count the OG



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Re: So seriously, how are we building wealth in our communities?
« Reply #24 on: September 10, 2019, 07:59:52 AM »
To build wealth...one has to be willing to do evil and good...problem is evil does evil and good does good.  That's never going to balance out in the dog eat dog world.  It takes someone who can do it...others to support it.



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Re: So seriously, how are we building wealth in our communities?
« Reply #25 on: September 10, 2019, 10:37:55 PM »
To build wealth...one has to be willing to do evil and good...problem is evil does evil and good does good.  That's never going to balance out in the dog eat dog world.  It takes someone who can do it...others to support it.

Its our capitalist system
Winner gets all the money
Gotta stomp people to get on top



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Re: So seriously, how are we building wealth in our communities?
« Reply #26 on: September 10, 2019, 10:50:13 PM »
Its our capitalist system
Winner gets all the money
Gotta stomp people to get on top

Not really...If you're the "hmong Nostradamus and is always right", you could just easily win the lotto and "get on top"...No?  ???



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Re: So seriously, how are we building wealth in our communities?
« Reply #27 on: September 19, 2019, 08:29:33 PM »
White have corporations, Jews own banking, financing and media, Indians have IT and engineering, Chinese have medical.

What fields should we have the Hmong get into in order to secure our place in this country? We can't rely on manufacturing. It isn't what it used to be. We need something that isn't in the public sector. We don't want to become like Blacks and Latinos who are so scared of losing entitlements because they need their people to stay poor in order to keep their job positions.

I've noticed a pattern when it comes to groups that achieve success in this country. They become masters in a certain industry and hold onto those positions. They become a real asset to America because of it.

There must be something that our people are masters of and do the best. Something that will be a real asset to America.

Sex and drugs?  :2funny:

Be realistic, no one is rich enough to pump money into a certain specialized production or service exclusively Hmong know how...




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Re: So seriously, how are we building wealth in our communities?
« Reply #28 on: October 02, 2019, 04:57:01 PM »
Its our capitalist system
Winner gets all the money
Gotta stomp people to get on top
That's not exactly right.  For example you have these government appropriated funds that must be used or lose.  Guess who uses them?  The NPO's.  They use it as in being helpful to the community right?  People earning higher wages and compensations than most for profit business owners.  Here we have a system that awards people for using these programs...it may appear helpful in the propaganda it promotes, but who is really paying for all of that.  All the other people who are out there working and paying taxes so a few people can live a comfortable life...no they actually live somewhat an extravagant life and are nominated as community leaders and such.  Just saying this as the dichotomy of good and evil all in one package.

At the same time you have philanthropist s with their charitable donations...wr itten in the gift for the contract and requirement to help the poor and needy.  These philanthropist s may not be the experts in getting their charity to the poor so they look for just a program manager or project manager who expedite this process for them.  What exactly happens again is the good and evil dichotomy.  Well those charitable gifts are then used up and then now reported back to the philanthropist s.  So there were (for example only) about 50% of the money got used up, out of the dictations of the stipulations for the charity donation.  What a shame...it's spent.  Now what?

See how easily fraud, embezzlement, theft can happen.  Good and Evil all in one package.  And it's all in perspective.  How is one's moral and ethics aligned.  With today's society of the self-entitled first attitude is the norm.  You can't just tell someone that's wrong.  They turn around and say back...it's wrong to leave the unclaimed $$$$. 

When you asked someone for donation.  They turn around and say back, that they're also looking for donation.  The self-entitled people of today.  They cannot just say, I decline respectfully.  They have to say it such a sarcastic witty method.



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