Are You An Idealist or Pragmatist?

[w1s3m0n]

Idealist - 1. a person who is guided more by ideals than by practical considerations .
"he came to power with the reputation of a left-wing idealist"
synonyms:   utopian, visionary, wishful thinker, pipe-dreamer, fantasist, romantic, dreamer, daydreamer, stargazer; More
2.
PHILOSOPHY
a person who believes in the theory of idealism.

Pragmatist - 1. a person who is guided more by practical considerations than by ideals.
"hardheaded pragmatists firmly rooted in the real world"
2.
PHILOSOPHY
an advocate of the approach that evaluates theories or beliefs in terms of the success of their practical application.
"American pragmatists have influenced a great deal of recent philosophy of many types"

The BIG question that really determines if you are a pragmatist or an idealist.

Suppose your S/O is dying of cancer and an ultra wealthy man have created the drug to cure your S/O.  The cost of the drug is $10,000, 100x the cost to make.  You spent weeks raising the funds, asking for donation, and your S/O is running out of time, and this drug can save her life 100%.  You raised $6,000, and asked to buy the drug and pay $4,000 later.  The drug manufacturer denies your request.  Your wife is dying.  What should you do?

a) Steal the drug?  You are breaking the law.
b) Let your S/O die because you cannot raise the money.

 

[DuMa]

I am neither.  Im an unconventional n orthodox kind of a guy.  I would ask her a or b.  Whatever she say i will do and whatever her answer is will determine if she is an idealist or a practical person. 

The soldier only taking orders.  He doesnt have a label.

[w1s3m0n]

I am neither.  Im an unconventional n orthodox kind of a guy.  I would ask her a or b.  Whatever she say i will do and whatever her answer is will determine if she is an idealist or a practical person. 

The soldier only taking orders.  He doesnt have a label.

Follower.  Got it.   

[DuMa]

Follower.  Got it.   

That makes you a quoter too

[w1s3m0n]

That makes you a quoter too

Us both.   

[can]

Idealist - 1. a person who is guided more by ideals than by practical considerations .
"he came to power with the reputation of a left-wing idealist"
synonyms:   utopian, visionary, wishful thinker, pipe-dreamer, fantasist, romantic, dreamer, daydreamer, stargazer; More
2.
PHILOSOPHY
a person who believes in the theory of idealism.

Pragmatist - 1. a person who is guided more by practical considerations than by ideals.
"hardheaded pragmatists firmly rooted in the real world"
2.
PHILOSOPHY
an advocate of the approach that evaluates theories or beliefs in terms of the success of their practical application.
"American pragmatists have influenced a great deal of recent philosophy of many types"

The BIG question that really determines if you are a pragmatist or an idealist.

Suppose your S/O is dying of cancer and an ultra wealthy man have created the drug to cure your S/O.  The cost of the drug is $10,000, 100x the cost to make.  You spent weeks raising the funds, asking for donation, and your S/O is running out of time, and this drug can save her life 100%.  You raised $6,000, and asked to buy the drug and pay $4,000 later.  The drug manufacturer denies your request.  Your wife is dying.  What should you do?

a) Steal the drug?  You are breaking the law.
b) Let your S/O die because you cannot raise the money.

that question has no bearing whatsoever on determining if a person is idealistic or pragmatic. people's choices aren't finite nor black and white. duh.

[nightrider]

Sorry, but I gotta have to say that I strife for both worlds. Ideals set goals, pragmatism is means to achievement...

[w1s3m0n]

that question has no bearing whatsoever on determining if a person is idealistic or pragmatic. people's choices aren't finite nor black and white. duh.

Sure, life choices are infinite.  Maybe, someone will come save you, or divine intervention will happen, or infinite possibility.  BUT, in the post and for the sake of fun a bifurcation was forced: steal or not steal.  You don't need to play along if you don't like having to make tough choices and trade off.  I say duck the rules, saving my wife is worth my soul.

[w1s3m0n]

Sorry, but I gotta have to say that I strife for both worlds. Ideals set goals, pragmatism is means to achievement...

Absolutely, we all exists in as CAN alluded to the gray zone...each day, we may shift between idealism and pragmatism, BUT, a true idealist, doesn't switch to pragmatism.  The idealist doesn't cause harm to make good ends.  Hence, it is often said, the path to hell is paved with good intentions.  Hence, if we are truly honest with ourselves, most of us are pragmatist and very few are idealist.  Idealists are unwavering dreamers who don't cut corners on anything.  Steve Jobs for product design is an idealist.  He doesn't cut corners EVER.  It is also said, Idealists are rigid, and pragmatist are softies. 

[Gucci K]

the answer is very simple...i'd let her die, use the $6000 for new wife!   

[w1s3m0n]

the answer is very simple...i'd let her die, use the $6000 for new wife!   

Only to lose half your net worth.  🤑

[Believe_N_Me]

Liberals are ideologues while Conservatives are more practical.

One might even say that Conservatism isn't a philosophy but a way of life - like the Amish.

The biggest rhetoric of liberal ideology is John Lennon's "Imagine".

During my youth I hummed along mindlessly to the melody. I didn't even know what I was saying when I belted out the lyrics. Now reading the words on screen it is pure utter bulls.hit.

Liberals are all about "liking the idea of [insert insane suggestion]. This is why they were so for Hillary Clinton and not because she's even a good person but because she's the only familiar female politician that they know. And of course it's due time we have a female president right, even if she's bad. We don't care. We just care that she's female - or something like it - can't exclude them transgender women.

This is why liberals love, love, love socialism like nutty grandpa Bernie Sanders. It sounds so swell that everybody should have equal outcomes. Until Taylor Swift wins the grammy even though some people felt that Beyonce should've won. Clearly to them (at least Kanye), nobody has mad skills like Queen Bey.

My goodness, even Adele who was clearly better than Beyonce was apologizing at her own acceptance speech.

The lunacy of the the regressive left is unfortunately here to stay and they are going HUUUUUUUUGE.

[w1s3m0n]

This isn't a political post.   

[YeejKoob13]

1) raising another 4k shouldn't be overwhelming for an ordinary person, no?

2) depends on how tight and strong security is for the formula. If it's highly guarded with armed personnels, dogs, cameras, vaults, high tech computer alarm systems, etc, then it's a mission impossible for the ordinary man to do, despite being a loving, caring, dedicated, and highly motivated husband... Putting on a black jump suit, ski mask from walmart, ropes bought from gander mountain, and carrying a trusted kitchen knife, all the while having only watched tom cruise movies for instructional purposes, not to mention the dad body, just won't suffice it. If security is that strong then probably most will be reluctant "idealists" (something a long the lines of "a lock keeps an honest man honest") as well, except for the most ardent, ardent of all (more like just fool hardy), for he will surely be caught, detained, and/or go to the afterlife before the wife does.

3) if security is lax then perhaps most men in the scenario would bring along a cousin or friend as a getaway driver and try stealing it, thus being pragmatists(?).