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What are your thoughts on Hmong leaders today
« on: October 09, 2018, 02:15:07 PM »
I'm not talking about the Hmong leaders in the mainstream community but the ones for the Hmong community like the 18 clans, leaders of so and so hmong organization, etc.. 




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Re: What are your thoughts on Hmong leaders today
« Reply #1 on: October 09, 2018, 02:18:56 PM »
Leaders???  Bunch of BS to me......since you ask.



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Re: What are your thoughts on Hmong leaders today
« Reply #2 on: October 09, 2018, 02:20:27 PM »
Why you think  that Mechanic?



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Re: What are your thoughts on Hmong leaders today
« Reply #3 on: October 09, 2018, 02:22:46 PM »
Who are the "Hmong leaders" today? Honestly, I don't even know who they are...



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Re: What are your thoughts on Hmong leaders today
« Reply #4 on: October 09, 2018, 02:33:13 PM »
Why you think  that Mechanic?
just cause I came across some that is just plain annoying af.  so I don't really care about them.



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Re: What are your thoughts on Hmong leaders today
« Reply #5 on: October 09, 2018, 02:39:05 PM »
Who are the "Hmong leaders" today? Honestly, I don't even know who they are...
Well, maybe you lost touch w/ your hmong community, you think?  Anyway, you find them where Hmong people are found.  In WI and MN, we have the leaders of the 18 clan, leaders from a specific hmong serving organizations, etc.. Oversea, we have the  Hmong Montagnard Nhia Vang and that white guy..something like that.




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Re: What are your thoughts on Hmong leaders today
« Reply #6 on: October 09, 2018, 02:48:36 PM »
Well, maybe you lost touch w/ your hmong community, you think?  Anyway, you find them where Hmong people are found.  In WI and MN, we have the leaders of the 18 clan, leaders from a specific hmong serving organizations, etc.. Oversea, we have the  Hmong Montagnard Nhia Vang and that white guy..something like that.

I live in CA with the highest Hmong population in the U.S. and I don't know who they are (if there's any). If you're talking about individual "clan" leaders or those working at organizations like "Lao Family" or those running Hmong International New Year then no, I don't considered them leaders...Defi nitely not my leader anyways...

And never heard of that Nhia Vang until now and no, I don't considered him a leader for all or the majority of Hmong either...



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Re: What are your thoughts on Hmong leaders today
« Reply #7 on: October 09, 2018, 03:18:09 PM »
Our Hmong leaders today are the greatest they have ever been and are improving at every opportunity. Now that we especially have access to modern management and leadership trainings, our leaders continue to be one of the greatest possible at this stage in our history.

I look forward to working with some again soon.



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Re: What are your thoughts on Hmong leaders today
« Reply #8 on: October 09, 2018, 09:26:07 PM »
Our Hmong leaders today are the greatest they have ever been and are improving at every opportunity. Now that we especially have access to modern management and leadership trainings, our leaders continue to be one of the greatest possible at this stage in our history.

I look forward to working with some again soon.

Since you've worked with them before, what are the changes? Improvements from the past ones?



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Re: What are your thoughts on Hmong leaders today
« Reply #9 on: October 10, 2018, 10:18:21 AM »
I just don't have a lot of hope for Hmong leaders because I've been to too many parties and all I see are them drinking like there's no tomorrow.   



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Re: What are your thoughts on Hmong leaders today
« Reply #10 on: October 10, 2018, 10:41:27 AM »
I just don't have a lot of hope for Hmong leaders because I've been to too many parties and all I see are them drinking like there's no tomorrow.
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Re: What are your thoughts on Hmong leaders today
« Reply #11 on: October 10, 2018, 11:25:17 AM »
exactly.
Don't take my word for it because i'm not a fan of heavy drinking so my opinion is biased, out of frustration, out of wanting to see change, etc..   



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Re: What are your thoughts on Hmong leaders today
« Reply #12 on: October 10, 2018, 11:39:09 AM »
I'm here! ;D



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Re: What are your thoughts on Hmong leaders today
« Reply #13 on: October 10, 2018, 11:54:38 AM »
Don't take my word for it because i'm not a fan of heavy drinking so my opinion is biased, out of frustration, out of wanting to see change, etc..
I didn't mean it like that.  What I mean is that I witnessed that too.  They'll fine any excuse to drink.  Promotion, oh lets drink.  Leaders birthday, oh lets drink.  Recovery, oh lets drink.  Change of seasons, oh lets drink.....pret ty soon, you drink, I drink.  I dance with you wife, you dance with my wife.  F-that.   

Look, I'm all for good leaders that can actually help not just the Hmong communities but communities in general.  But until then, BS.



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Re: What are your thoughts on Hmong leaders today
« Reply #14 on: October 10, 2018, 01:59:09 PM »
Yes, I can never be a Hmong leader because I don't drink.  ;D



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