I actually met both at work when I use to work for a bank in Sacramento (not as a teller).
I really don't believe in stereotypes as I am Puerto Rican and Italian and heard many bad things about my race and culture. I know both women I met in the past had just got out of a really bad relationship and maybe they were just letting loose and spreading their wings. The thing I didn't like is how their friends were able to convince them to be wild. I am not perfect as I have seen and dealt my fair share of craziness but as history has taught us it will repeat itself. I dont like going backwards.
I think you're correct regarding those women wanting a release after their "really bad relationship"...Seems like it was a combination of that, and alcohol. I say alcohol because I've seen my fair share of folks using Jose Cuervo, Jack Daniels, Hennessy, etc., to help them ease their depression/sadness. Perhaps they were in a very controlling, abusive, and boring relationships and have never experienced being "wild" and were curious?? Many Hmong girls are raised under very strict family environment to maintain their bride-price value and some married at a very young age so that's probably the first time those girls could really let loose...?
It's funny, I actually grew up in San Francisco and never heard of Hmong's until I moved to the East Bay Area (San Pablo/Richmond). I remember meeting a few Hmong's and they were cool.
Yep, you're not alone when it comes to "never heard of Hmong's"...I've had friends and co-workers that have never heard of Hmong either mainly because we are a very small minority group in America. Plus, when our elders were fighting along side and helping the Americans during the Vietnam War, it was a "Secret War" so no real mention of the Hmong's contribution in history books and what not...
When we arrived in America, we lived in Richmond for a short period too. Since we were poor, we lived in the ghetto..Richmo
nd is already on the bad side as a whole on average so you can imagine how much worst the ghetto areas are...
But when I moved to Sactown I noticed a lot of Hmong women with guys who treated them very poorly. I couldn't understand why these women would allow men to talk to them so badly.
In the patriarch Hmong society, women have very little say in the matter...At a very young age, many Hmong girls were raised and brought up to be obedient especially towards their husbands, in-laws, etc., even if they are in a forced or arranged marriage situation. They just have to suck it up. I'm glad to see some have progressed, realized their worth and basic human rights and stand up for what's right and fight those inequalities. Sadly some still in that hopelessness mode...
I grew up very ghetto as a child (poor on food stamps) and seen how people treated women in the housing projects I use to live in. I couldn't talk to people that way, it's not cool.
As for a women's education, it's not that important to me. There are several educated women out there that don't have degrees and are doing very well. There are also single mothers out there who are juggling work and family life who don't have a degree.
Yep, good to see feel that way too. I grew up in a broken home where my father was controlling and abusive. I'm glad my mom was able to empowered herself and got out of that mess in America. Even at a young age, I knew how wrong my father was for mistreating my mom so everything I observed he did that was bad, I turn 180 degree from it. As we grow into adulthood, we are in charge of ourselves so repeating those bad cycles is just an excuse for many IMO. My question for the cycle repeating folks is, 'how did you feel when that happen?' If you feel bad about it, then why repeat it??
Also agree that education/status/wealth/race/religion ...etc., is not as important as how the person carries him/herself...in society.