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i've see trump always blaming mexico and their drug for coming over the border.
because of this, you got drug cartel killing each other and people for control of drug route and etc...
never once, have i heard any blame on the drug user themselves

you never/rarely ever heard about the drug user
these people are to blame too
for using drug and keeping that flow of demand coming in

Rodrigo Duterte, of the philippines has a really tough drug stance
drug trafficking are usually shot and kill
and if you keep doing drugs, you are shot and kill


i think, we should start doing something like this
but first, we need to help these addicted
give them a chance to be sober



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Re: instead of blaming drug, why don't we blame the user instead????
« Reply #1 on: January 15, 2019, 12:26:27 PM »
If we did that, we'd have to blame poverty because it's found that poverty driven areas had more users than well off areas.  Then we'd have to fix poverty and which Republican would wanna do that?  If you tried, you'd be called a socialist.



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Re: instead of blaming drug, why don't we blame the user instead????
« Reply #2 on: January 15, 2019, 03:50:54 PM »
So we should blame people. And not guns?
Just blame money.  You'll need money to get any of that stuff in the first place.



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Re: instead of blaming drug, why don't we blame the user instead????
« Reply #3 on: January 15, 2019, 04:04:30 PM »
If we did that, we'd have to blame poverty because it's found that poverty driven areas had more users than well off areas.  Then we'd have to fix poverty and which Republican would wanna do that?  If you tried, you'd be called a socialist.

Drug are every where
And in every class including the rich

Don’t you see those hollywood celebrities OD ing???

Shoot ,,,, purple rain prince OD

Too many demand for these drugs
Cut the demand and those cartels will be back to growing lettuce

The law of supply and demand



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Re: instead of blaming drug, why don't we blame the user instead????
« Reply #4 on: January 15, 2019, 06:12:56 PM »
i've see trump always blaming mexico and their drug for coming over the border.
because of this, you got drug cartel killing each other and people for control of drug route and etc...
never once, have i heard any blame on the drug user themselves

you never/rarely ever heard about the drug user
these people are to blame too
for using drug and keeping that flow of demand coming in

Rodrigo Duterte, of the philippines has a really tough drug stance
drug trafficking are usually shot and kill
and if you keep doing drugs, you are shot and kill


i think, we should start doing something like this
but first, we need to help these addicted
give them a chance to be sober


If we did that, we'd have to blame poverty because it's found that poverty driven areas had more users than well off areas.  Then we'd have to fix poverty and which Republican would wanna do that?  If you tried, you'd be called a socialist.

LOVE IT!!!  ;D ;D ;D



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Re: instead of blaming drug, why don't we blame the user instead????
« Reply #5 on: January 15, 2019, 06:15:27 PM »
So we should blame people. And not guns?

 ;D ;D ;D He set himself up with his epic failures like in this thread but then cried that we are "ganging up" on him... ;D ;D ;D

Since he claimed "guns kill, not people", but now he blames "people" instead of the "drugs"...... ;D ;D ;D



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Re: instead of blaming drug, why don't we blame the user instead????
« Reply #6 on: January 15, 2019, 07:09:21 PM »
My vision must be getting blurry
Or im in a alt universe
Ive pretty sure that Las Vegas shooter didn’t go on a stabbing spree

Oh wait

He mow down people with a modified ar15

Daaadadaaadaaa daaaa....

Can’t even pass a background check
Don’t even own any firearms
Probably too poor to afford one





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Re: instead of blaming drug, why don't we blame the user instead????
« Reply #7 on: January 15, 2019, 09:54:22 PM »
My vision must be getting blurry
Or im in a alt universe
Ive pretty sure that Las Vegas shooter didn’t go on a stabbing spree

Oh wait

He mow down people with a modified ar15

Daaadadaaadaaa daaaa....

Can’t even pass a background check
Don’t even own any firearms
Probably too poor to afford one

You been "blurry" and in the "alt universe" for sometime because for those us with common sense, we can see that the "shooter" is "people"...so the claim of "guns kill, not people" is really dumb... ;D



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Re: instead of blaming drug, why don't we blame the user instead????
« Reply #8 on: January 16, 2019, 03:33:28 AM »
i've see trump always blaming mexico and their drug for coming over the border.
because of this, you got drug cartel killing each other and people for control of drug route and etc...
never once, have i heard any blame on the drug user themselves

you never/rarely ever heard about the drug user
these people are to blame too
for using drug and keeping that flow of demand coming in

Rodrigo Duterte, of the philippines has a really tough drug stance
drug trafficking are usually shot and kill
and if you keep doing drugs, you are shot and kill


i think, we should start doing something like this
but first, we need to help these addicted
give them a chance to be sober


So you want to throw away our whole justice system. Whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty?  You are essentially giving the police authority to become the judge, jury and executioner.  This can to abuse of power. This also leads to the killing of innocents. Just letting you know, this will result in more deaths of U.S. citizens than Mexican cartels. Saying that a first time drug user should be shot because he is the same as a big time drug dealer who's been doing It for over 20 years is preposterous. It will be the end of justice as we know it.




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Re: instead of blaming drug, why don't we blame the user instead????
« Reply #9 on: January 16, 2019, 06:36:06 AM »
So we should blame people. And not guns?
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Re: instead of blaming drug, why don't we blame the user instead????
« Reply #10 on: January 16, 2019, 08:50:30 AM »
So you want to throw away our whole justice system. Whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty?  You are essentially giving the police authority to become the judge, jury and executioner.  This can to abuse of power. This also leads to the killing of innocents. Just letting you know, this will result in more deaths of U.S. citizens than Mexican cartels. Saying that a first time drug user should be shot because he is the same as a big time drug dealer who's been doing It for over 20 years is preposterous. It will be the end of justice as we know it.


i am a fair man
if you read above
i say we even give them a chance to heal and stay sober
this mean opening up addict rehab center

because human are not perfect, we will allow them three strike before
they are shot and killed

once the demand for coke goes down
these drug cartel will go back to growing lettuces
and your drug violences, these immgrant acrossing the border won't have to come anymore







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Re: instead of blaming drug, why don't we blame the user instead????
« Reply #11 on: January 16, 2019, 11:34:03 AM »

i am a fair man
if you read above
i say we even give them a chance to heal and stay sober
this mean opening up addict rehab center

because human are not perfect, we will allow them three strike before
they are shot and killed

once the demand for coke goes down
these drug cartel will go back to growing lettuces
and your drug violences, these immgrant acrossing the border won't have to come anymore


What three strikes? I read nothing about three strikes.



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Re: instead of blaming drug, why don't we blame the user instead????
« Reply #12 on: January 16, 2019, 12:45:18 PM »
What three strikes? I read nothing about three strikes.

gotta be fair
just like in baseball
three strike and you are out

trump always blaming the mexico for bring the drugs
shoot, they won't bring it
if no one is consuming it
have you see that movie "wolf of wallstreet" where those dude snort coke all day and night



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Re: instead of blaming drug, why don't we blame the user instead????
« Reply #13 on: January 17, 2019, 07:35:04 PM »
gotta be fair you mean like killing an innocent person all because of someone else leaving drugs in that persons car and the police saw it during a traffic stop.
just like in baseball
three strike and you are out


because human are not perfect, we will allow them three strike before
they are shot and killed

it's just a waste of tax money for the rehab program if the purpose is simply to make it as a justification for the killing of drug users and not to actually try and help them. You said it yourself, that humans are not perfect. So what makes you think that everyone require only three tries?

If you believe that getting rid of the drug users is the solution to the drug problem,  then wouldn't it be more efficient and more cost effective to just kill all drug users on sight on their first time.


trump always blaming the mexico for bring the drugs
shoot, they won't bring it
if no one is consuming itHave you ever heard of a man named Steve Jobs that started a computer company called Apple? He had a crazy idea of making computers for the average household use, even though there were little to no consumers at the time.
have you see that movie "wolf of wallstreet" where those dude snort coke all day and night


supply and demand doesn't work on drugs as easy as you make it to be. Drug addiction isn't a "trend" like other products. Drug cartels/dealers don't just rely on their "regulars" as their source of demands for drugs. One of their old customer went to rehab and is now no longer abusing drugs, no problem, just go ten other people and get them hooked on drugs.  Problem solved.

I'm going to make a bold assertion here.

I'm assuming that a lot of first time coke users had never consumed coke in their life prior to the time they tried it for the first time.

Another assumption I'll add is this. I would assume that if someone has a product that they want to make some money off of it, they will most likely want to expose their product to as many consumers as possible.  That would include people who have never tried their product before. At least that's what I thought those morman missionaries had in mind when they go around knocking on the doors of nonmormans and telling them about their beliefs.

By the way,  why would think that using taxpayers money to fund a drug cartels' "Rivalry drug war" a good thing. You do know that your "soulution" to the drug war can easily be exploited by drug lords ,and make it their own "free taxpayer funded and justifiable solution" to their Problem? That is to get rid of rival drug lords.

Bottom line. Killing American drug users isn't as good of a solution as you had imagined it to be in regards to the American drug problem nor to the illegal immigrant problem.



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Re: instead of blaming drug, why don't we blame the user instead????
« Reply #14 on: January 17, 2019, 09:03:39 PM »
it's just a waste of tax money for the rehab program if the purpose is simply to make it as a justification for the killing of drug users and not to actually try and help them. You said it yourself, that humans are not perfect. So what makes you think that everyone require only three tries?

If you believe that getting rid of the drug users is the solution to the drug problem,  then wouldn't it be more efficient and more cost effective to just kill all drug users on sight on their first time.


trump always blaming the mexico for bring the drugs
shoot, they won't bring it
if no one is consuming itHave you ever heard of a man named Steve Jobs that started a computer company called Apple? He had a crazy idea of making computers for the average household use, even though there were little to no consumers at the time.
have you see that movie "wolf of wallstreet" where those dude snort coke all day and night


supply and demand doesn't work on drugs as easy as you make it to be. Drug addiction isn't a "trend" like other products. Drug cartels/dealers don't just rely on their "regulars" as their source of demands for drugs. One of their old customer went to rehab and is now no longer abusing drugs, no problem, just go ten other people and get them hooked on drugs.  Problem solved.


I'm going to make a bold assertion here.

I'm assuming that a lot of first time coke users had never consumed coke in their life prior to the time they tried it for the first time.

Another assumption I'll add is this. I would assume that if someone has a product that they want to make some money off of it, they will most likely want to expose their product to as many consumers as possible.  That would include people who have never tried their product before. At least that's what I thought those morman missionaries had in mind when they go around knocking on the doors of nonmormans and telling them about their beliefs.

By the way,  why would think that using taxpayers money to fund a drug cartels' "Rivalry drug war" a good thing. You do know that your "soulution" to the drug war can easily be exploited by drug lords ,and make it their own "free taxpayer funded and justifiable solution" to their Problem? That is to get rid of rival drug lords.

Bottom line. Killing American drug users isn't as good of a solution as you had imagined it to be in regards to the American drug problem nor to the illegal immigrant problem.

I’m not a drug user
But from folks i talk too
It takes more than “one hit” to become addicted

I try smoking once
And never try it again
Didn’t become addicted to it

We are,assuming, talking about addicted here
People who consume these drug all day and night
Their demand is fueling the drug war
Just like the iPhone, people demand/want it
So tim cook just keep pumping it out





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