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hmgrock solution to the income inequality in america
« on: January 29, 2019, 11:42:06 AM »
it is sooooo simple and easy

STOP OVERPAYING PEOPLE
like kings and queens

you got those top brass and CEO
getting paid $5-20 million per year
that CEO gopro  guy got paid $600 million one year

no body work that hard


For example:

Entry level:  $36k
Skill:  $60K
Manager:  $100k
the boss and top brass:  $250k






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Re: hmgrock solution to the income inequality in america
« Reply #1 on: January 29, 2019, 11:43:53 AM »
right now

the boss and top brass: $10-600 million, maybe even more

even billions

who knows



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Re: hmgrock solution to the income inequality in america
« Reply #2 on: January 29, 2019, 12:20:59 PM »
With a standardized system, aient nobody gonna work for you. 

It is not based upon how hard a person work but more of a merit of a genuis mind. 

Musk
Cook
Bozo

There can only be one thus why they are getting the big bucks.



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Re: hmgrock solution to the income inequality in america
« Reply #3 on: January 29, 2019, 12:53:26 PM »
With a standardized system, aient nobody gonna work for you. 

It is not based upon how hard a person work but more of a merit of a genuis mind. 

Musk
Cook
Bozo

There can only be one thus why they are getting the big bucks.

tim cook is not a genius mind
most of these genius mind are actually your level entry and skills
APPLE has a research team, where their employee are making/discovery new thing

genius mind are people who actually making the discovery
some student at MIT college are discoverying batteries that are like 100x efficent than the ion batteries

they are just in a high position
so therefore, they are automatic pay paying
that's the route right now



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Re: hmgrock solution to the income inequality in america
« Reply #4 on: January 29, 2019, 05:16:33 PM »
it is sooooo simple and easy

Why not just win every lotto or bets out there and give it to others to balance things out especially the poor since you're the "hmong Nostradamus and is always right"??  ???

So far the only thing you could mustard after making all your claims is give poor people "spoilage" food... ::)



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Re: hmgrock solution to the income inequality in america
« Reply #5 on: January 29, 2019, 09:41:26 PM »
At the end of the day, this is how the world currently works:
1) You are a worker bee (that's you and I).
2) You are an information bee (That is the CxO aka top brass).
3) You are the owner bee. (OWNERS)

First and foremost, those who have the most are actually not the Information Bee who we always blame like the CEO.  They are merely like the queen bees who the owner bee use to laid eggs and enforce the worker bee to make honey for the owner bee.  The reason why the worker bees blame the information bees is that they are only aware of the information bees, and the worker bee is so stupid about how the world actually works, they don't even notice/know about the owner bee.  Every time when I teach this concept to people, they are blown away.  It humanizes the information bee...I only know of the information bee, and the owner bee because I use to be an information bee.  Bees are stupid...they only understand 1-degree of freedom.  Anything wider than that, they cannot comprehend too.

Second, we should stop blaming the Information Bee because they are still just a BEE (aka worker).  The owner bee owns everything...y es everything, including the beehive...etc. ..

With that said, I will say the owner bee does care for the bees.  They move the bees around to ensure the bees are productive.  They take care of the bees against the evils of the bears and other animals.   They have a lot of honey but they can't eat it all.  At the end of the day, most bees have enough to eat to be fat and dumb.

Anyways, you aren't going to change the system.  Speak to MLK, JFK, and all those KO'd...We will get our very own HRK.  Why is this?  To attack the owner bee, you have to string the owner and lose your stinger...you will die after losing your stinger.  To sting or not to sting?  Or as they say, to martyr or not to martyr.


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Re: hmgrock solution to the income inequality in america
« Reply #6 on: January 30, 2019, 06:36:29 AM »
it is sooooo simple and easy

STOP OVERPAYING PEOPLE
like kings and queens

you got those top brass and CEO
getting paid $5-20 million per year
that CEO gopro  guy got paid $600 million one year

no body work that hard


For example:

Entry level:  $36k
Skill:  $60K
Manager:  $100k
the boss and top brass:  $250k


It's not about who works harder. It's about who is more responsible for the company's survival and success. And if a company is making hundreds of millions of dollars a year,  the CEO  is getting paid accordingly, especially if the CEO is responsible for the company's success and survival. 



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Re: hmgrock solution to the income inequality in america
« Reply #7 on: January 30, 2019, 08:16:06 AM »
supervisor barking orders at their worker
we all know, who is the real worker


our reward system is mess up

that's why i proposal a fair system

For example:

Entry level:  $36k
Skill:  $60K
Manager:  $100k
the boss and top brass:  $250k






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Re: hmgrock solution to the income inequality in america
« Reply #8 on: January 30, 2019, 01:32:05 PM »
Right now the laborer (worker) assumes ZERO RISK, and so their reward is proportional to the risk they assume.  The solution IS for the workers to UNITE and ASSUME MORE RISKS for the enterprise and so they can be granted more REWARD.  Honestly, an enterprise owned by the workers can work, but the workers are fat and lazy, and so they don't want to deal with managing the enterprise.  Many times the workers sell out to LBO capitalists at a discount.  Unless the worker becomes more enterprising and accepts more risk for the outcome, then the system is exactly what it should be.  Family companies always sell out to LBO and so we know the routine...  People want money to live the life of milk and honey while the rest suffer.


supervisor barking orders at their worker
we all know, who is the real worker


our reward system is mess up

that's why i proposal a fair system

For example:

Entry level:  $36k
Skill:  $60K
Manager:  $100k
the boss and top brass:  $250k




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Re: hmgrock solution to the income inequality in america
« Reply #9 on: January 30, 2019, 01:46:22 PM »
Right now the laborer (worker) assumes ZERO RISK, and so their reward is proportional to the risk they assume.  The solution IS for the workers to UNITE and ASSUME MORE RISKS for the enterprise and so they can be granted more REWARD.  Honestly, an enterprise owned by the workers can work, but the workers are fat and lazy, and so they don't want to deal with managing the enterprise.  Many times the workers sell out to LBO capitalists at a discount.  Unless the worker becomes more enterprising and accepts more risk for the outcome, then the system is exactly what it should be.  Family companies always sell out to LBO and so we know the routine...  People want money to live the life of milk and honey while the rest suffer.

Lmao
Dude

Owner has zero risk
They can always file bankruptcy protection
Take trump for example
Dude has like 6-7 bankruptcy and he still a billionaire
All debt are forgiven




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Re: hmgrock solution to the income inequality in america
« Reply #10 on: January 30, 2019, 03:23:43 PM »
You invest in the stock market and you don't understand the simple transaction for the underlying asset value of a stock?  LOL...  As a shareholder, you are an OWNER.  If the company goes BK, you lose 100% of your money until the court decides how much you will get...mayb a nickel on the dollar...so your $100 invested is now worth $5...MAYBE.  If a company goes BK, how much does a worker lose?  Their job.  Tomorrow they find a new job.  Who is taking the risk?  The owners/shareholder.  The laborer will jump from one owner to the next like a mercenary.

When Trump corporations filed for BK, the shareholder lost everything...w hatever Trump had in the company, he lost too...BUT, TRUMP as a person (via SSN) never filed BK.  Trump acts like smart money...smart money people never risk their hard earned money.  They risk other people's money.  These people are filthy rich and can afford the risk or are too stupid and are passive investors in 401k ETF or Pension.

Likewise as I was saying, when the smart money make the killing, they get the majority of the spoils...The workers get like the crumbs.  It's how the world works.

Here's another analogy in case you are too thickheaded.  You are a hunter.  You buy the gun, the ammos, and etc...  You scouted.  You found the pattern of the deers.  You spent a lot of money, 6 months preparing, and now you are ready to get your big game white tail.  You go to your stand, the deer cross over, you take aim, and you got a killshot.  As you went took the deer home, along the way, the guy who did NOTHING said, heh, you need to give me half your deer because that's the moral thing to do.  Let's say this person has been doing this for hundreds of years.  Is that fair?  Give up half your deer to somebody who did nothing?

Btw, I'm that someone who didn't do shit...I hope when I visit you in the Fox Valley area, you'll give me half your freshly killed deer.  That's the liberal thing to do...I hope you do it every time I ask for it...Otherwise, you talk the liberal talk but can't walk it.

And, I want half your fish and garden crops too...


Lmao
Dude

Owner has zero risk
They can always file bankruptcy protection
Take trump for example
Dude has like 6-7 bankruptcy and he still a billionaire
All debt are forgiven



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Re: hmgrock solution to the income inequality in america
« Reply #11 on: January 30, 2019, 03:50:43 PM »
You invest in the stock market and you don't understand the simple transaction for the underlying asset value of a stock?  LOL...  As a shareholder, you are an OWNER.  If the company goes BK, you lose 100% of your money until the court decides how much you will get...mayb a nickel on the dollar...so your $100 invested is now worth $5...MAYBE.  If a company goes BK, how much does a worker lose?  Their job.  Tomorrow they find a new job.  Who is taking the risk?  The owners/shareholder.  The laborer will jump from one owner to the next like a mercenary.

allow me to explain
i think you are missing a few part
there are two different type of stock

common stock= that you and me, the investor
preferred stock= usually thats the real owner and top brass

common stock will get wipe to zero
while preferred will get the money first
but some of those preferred stock are the owner and they get even more protection bond like, so they will get their money
almost like a preferred share in a preferred share, so you will get money no matter what, like first class stuff


that's why trump is soooo rich
he going wipe you out first before he wipe him
zero risk, just open new business and rinse and repeat
sooo easy

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here'a better description: of who get stuff first

https://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/difference-between-preferred-stock-and-common-stock/

Preferred stockholders have a greater claim to a company's assets and earnings. This is true during the good times when the company has excess cash and decides to distribute money in the form of dividends to its investors. In these instances when distributions are made, preferred stockholders must be paid before common stockholders. However, this claim is most important during times of insolvency when common stockholders are last in line for the company's assets. This means that when the company must liquidate and pay all creditors and bondholders, common stockholders will not receive any money until after the preferred shareholders are paid out.


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Re: hmgrock solution to the income inequality in america
« Reply #12 on: January 30, 2019, 03:55:40 PM »
someone like trump who has declare bankruptcy 6 times
you think he will owe a lot of people money

nope

dude don't owe anyone
debt and liability are all wipe out

ive see business take the easy way out and pay themselves and fawk everyone else


 :2funny: :2funny: :2funny: :2funny:


that's why i don't suggest you buy single stock



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Re: hmgrock solution to the income inequality in america
« Reply #13 on: January 30, 2019, 04:48:20 PM »
HR, stick to the topic bro.  Trying to show you know more about the stock market than I do is a fallacy.  Attack my argument: workers wage is directionally proportionate to the risk they assume on the success/failure of the enterprise, and it is FAIR.  Owner bees will reap the majority.  The Information Bee will get chunks.  Worker bees will get crumbs if ANY.

Also, when can I come collect half your fresh kill dear, half the fishes you catch, and half your harvest?  You are a socialist democrat...so you should not be angry if I do so.  It's not stealing...it's your moral duty.


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« Reply #14 on: January 30, 2019, 05:18:32 PM »
HR, stick to the topic bro.  Trying to show you know more about the stock market than I do is a fallacy.  Attack my argument: workers wage is directionally proportionate to the risk they assume on the success/failure of the enterprise, and it is FAIR.  Owner bees will reap the majority.  The Information Bee will get chunks.  Worker bees will get crumbs if ANY.

Also, when can I come collect half your fresh kill dear, half the fishes you catch, and half your harvest?  You are a socialist democrat...so you should not be angry if I do so.  It's not stealing...it's your moral duty.

Yes
I understand what you are saying
What i am saying is these owners are not using their personal wealth
They are using others people money
So they assume zero risk
Because its not their money

Some might use/get rest from bank and investor

With 6 bankruptcy
You would think trump would be a cashier at Walmart




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