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Re: New Fishing Pole
« Reply #60 on: June 16, 2022, 02:51:37 PM »
But if I give up the rod, I won't have it to play around with.  Those Ugly Stiks are always reliable.  However if you do decide to upgrade, start with a St. Croix Premiere rod at just over $100 and you'll probably just leave the ugly stick as a back up.

Anyways after some more practicing and changing the setups around.  I got it dialed in somewhat.  Apparently the Expride B 7' Medium rod is built in likeness to a casting rod.  So I had to give it a casting rod fling instead of my spinning rod flick.  And also it seemed like the rod didn't like the Fireline or it was a mismatch combo.  Either that or it was transmitting too much line vibration feedback.  So on it is the Sustain 2500FD reel with 10# Sufix 832 braid and it seems to be flowing smoothly.  I guess I'll go with that.

Furthermore in comparison to my old Calcutta 7' Medium power rod, the Expride is a touch more stiffer and more vibration sensitive.  Plus it has a slightly more tip forward power load.  That's why I couldn't get the smooth casting down at first.  Felt just a little different.  Still the reel seat is also different, contributing to the overall sensation. 



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Re: New Fishing Pole
« Reply #61 on: June 20, 2022, 10:31:37 AM »
im poor man
im not spending $100 for a fishing pole

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Re: New Fishing Pole
« Reply #62 on: June 24, 2022, 12:40:55 AM »
Well I got to use my Expride B 7' M spinning rod and my only direct comparison is the Shimano Calcutta 7' M spinning rod. Both rods have SiC guides. Mostly just using Kastmaster spoon fishing as it works great on pikes and other species willing to bite.

While the Expride is a touch more powerful blank, the tip is actually a bit softer and more responsive. It is however a little less tip vibration sensitive in comparison to the Calcutta rod. I'm not feeling as strong of a bite vibration response as the Calcutta rod. I will say that the load of of rod is wonderful. Keeps fish pinned once hooked and has enough backbone power and response. Holds as a true fast action.

With the Sustain 2500FE reel and 10# Sufix braid, there is some barely noticeable line slap feel on the line guides. Casting is still wonderful and smooth. I had tried earlier with a Stradic 3000MgFb with 15# Fireline Braid and there was a definite line slap restriction feel on my casting. My old Calcutta rod has a much larger stripper guide and it has a much smoother line flow on the cast. Reels were swapped between both rods too.

Is it an upgrade from the Calcutta rod? Not really it's different in some areas.

If I had to compare the Expride B to the Expride A, I'll say that the later B model is a touch more responsive.  Mostly because they did not put a clear flex coat onto the B model.  The reversed handle of the B model still takes a little getting use to for myself.  For one thing it does a better job at leveraging fish, but not as good when working the lure and trying to detect a bite.

If I compare the overall rod sensitivity, Cabela's XML are still more sensitive.  They are the poor man's version of G.Loomis GLX rods.

If I compare the Exprides to the Zodias rods, it makes the Zodias rods feel like those are soft insensitive rods.  Well I did refer the Zodias rods as What an Ugly Stik would be if they put togeter good handles and line guides.  Probably why I really like the Zodias rods for what they are.  They are really suited for Rooster Tails and any other inline spinners.  The Exprides seems to suit jigging spoons and jigs far better.  I need to find a place without snagging bottom to fish bottom contact lures and have fish to catch with.



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Re: New Fishing Pole
« Reply #63 on: June 30, 2022, 06:04:31 AM »
Finally got around to do some catfishing with the Shimano Teramar Southeast Spinning rod 7' Heavy power moderate fast tip rated for 1/2 oz to 2 oz. weight.  On this rod I had the Stradic 5000FL spooled with 50# Berkley X9 braid and top shot leader of 30# Silverthread Excalibur mono.  I did tangle with a decent sized catfish and the rod did it's job wonderfully.  The tip load and fish fight was splendid.  Totally a wonderful upgrade from my old Stradic 4000FG that has done it's duty.   Everything about this rod is for sure an upgrade from my Ugly Stik Catfish rod.  For sure this is now my dedicated catfish rod.



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Re: New Fishing Pole
« Reply #64 on: July 14, 2022, 12:50:13 PM »
Gotta expand my fishing rods again.  I decided that since the Shimano Teramar is mainly for big catfish and it's not so easy to detect the smaller catfish.  I saw just the rod.

St. Croix Premier 7' Heavy Fast action spinning rod.  Rated for 1/2 t0 1 1/2 oz. weights.  Well testing the tip flex, it's not as powerful as it's rating.  I felt it was more like a MH power rod when compared to all the other rods I've used so far.  It's a touch more sensitive that my Ugly Stik Catfish 7' MH rod.  I was relying on an old 7' Ugly Stik for that duty but it's flimsy like an Ugly Stik is and not so much control or finesse when I need it so.

If comparing to my old Cabela's XML 7' Heavy Fast action spinning rod, the St. Croix Premier 7' Heavy Fast action is much softer and has more flex.  The Cabel's XML 7' H rods has no room for error when it comes to fishing.  You detect a bite, you set the hook and full power on fish fight.  The St. Croix Premier 7' H rod feels slower and hopefully this will allow me some longer window when detecting softer bites.  So now I've moved the reel from my Ugly Stick Catfish rod over to the St. Croix Premier, as I haven't utilized that reel yet.  It's the Shimano Ultegra 4000FA spooled with old Berkley Whiplash 50# braid line.



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Re: New Fishing Pole
« Reply #65 on: July 14, 2022, 01:30:26 PM »
I like my 7' heavy power, fast action St. Croix Premier for all purposes--cats to crappies except trouts.

But I also keep a something Loomis and two Cabela's Fish Eagle 54 for trouts and an extra fast action 5'9" Daiwa something as a backup. (I'm going to give this last one away to the next little boy I see at the flea market.)

If I buy any more, it will be something that will work on walleyes and bass, fast action.


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Re: New Fishing Pole
« Reply #66 on: July 14, 2022, 07:06:48 PM »
Good to know you like the St. Croix Premier 7' H fast spinning rod.  I was comparing it just then with my Cabela's XML 7' H fast and the tip actions of both are really close.  The St. Croix does have just a smidge softer upper tip section, but both the backbone of both rods do load up pretty much the same.  I guess when I hook up with a big fish on, then I'll be able to feel the difference between the two.



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Re: New Fishing Pole
« Reply #67 on: July 14, 2022, 09:26:25 PM »
Cats, carps, and buffalos will bring out the differences in them. Otherwise, they probably aren't that noticeable.



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