to zdn's point... i'm at the point of buying quality things and not just quantity junk now... as you can see... most if not all of my firearms are cheap... ain't none of them over 500 bucks... whenever i'm hunting with my brother in laws... they be using their super black eagle 2 and 3 that's 1500 to 2000... and i'm like... i can shoot just as many waterfowls and upland birds like you too but at a cheaper price of 300 dollars... so in many ways i'm like you too hmgrock... when it comes to hunting... only i've come to realize that it's what makes us happy... and with my particular group of hunters and fishermen... no one cares about what we use... we just care about limiting out or not... and most times, we don't ever limit out... we'll go and smoke a cuban cigar or two... lol!