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Re: arrest comparison, shooter being arrested vs..
« Reply #1 on: August 05, 2019, 10:29:51 AM »
there's a thing called compliance.  ha!



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« Reply #2 on: August 05, 2019, 11:03:32 AM »
there's a thing called compliance.  ha!
The catch all phrase for getting away with beating up a person: "stop resisting, stop resisting!"



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Re: arrest comparison, shooter being arrested vs..
« Reply #3 on: August 05, 2019, 11:26:18 AM »
there's a thing called compliance.  ha!

Isn't that cute.

You mean to tell me if you obey commands from LEO's you wouldn't get shot? Like the caretaker (African-American) who was shot, right?

Or how about the woman who was killed because the cop shot at the dog and missed?

I mean, target practice right? Or maybe it's this idea of "if I can fire off 15 bullets, 1 will eventually hit the perp...and unfortunately suffer collateral damage but we're cool with that?"



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Re: arrest comparison, shooter being arrested vs..
« Reply #4 on: August 05, 2019, 11:31:32 AM »
Isn't that cute.

You mean to tell me if you obey commands from LEO's you wouldn't get shot? Like the caretaker (African-American) who was shot, right?

Or how about the woman who was killed because the cop shot at the dog and missed?

I mean, target practice right? Or maybe it's this idea of "if I can fire off 15 bullets, 1 will eventually hit the perp...and unfortunately suffer collateral damage but we're cool with that?"
Compliance works very well when you're white; any other race and you just have to take your chances on the officer's mood.



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Re: arrest comparison, shooter being arrested vs..
« Reply #5 on: August 05, 2019, 01:21:03 PM »
Isn't that cute.

You mean to tell me if you obey commands from LEO's you wouldn't get shot? Like the caretaker (African-American) who was shot, right?

Or how about the woman who was killed because the cop shot at the dog and missed?

I mean, target practice right? Or maybe it's this idea of "if I can fire off 15 bullets, 1 will eventually hit the perp...and unfortunately suffer collateral damage but we're cool with that?"
regardless of your crime, i can almost guarantee you safety, if you comply, you won't die!   

totally different perspective from accidental shooting (with your example)...it's never ok with collateral damage, unless it's war related (some innocent people will get hurt).



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Re: arrest comparison, shooter being arrested vs..
« Reply #6 on: August 05, 2019, 03:43:34 PM »
Cops are soft cuz people are suing cops and won. 

Cops are happier doing a+ quality work without actually working.  Next time, I'll help them out by hand cuffing myself and go sit nicely in the squad car.



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Re: arrest comparison, shooter being arrested vs..
« Reply #7 on: August 05, 2019, 09:54:48 PM »
Compliance works very well when you're white; any other race and you just have to take your chances on the officer's mood.

Didn't work too "well" for this "white" person so it's as bad as saying you can kill a "black man and get away scott free"...:

Woman killed by Minneapolis officer ‘yearned to help people’








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Re: arrest comparison, shooter being arrested vs..
« Reply #8 on: August 06, 2019, 08:04:05 AM »
Didn't work too "well" for this "white" person so it's as bad as saying you can kill a "black man and get away scott free"...:

Woman killed by Minneapolis officer ‘yearned to help people’


This incident had nothing to do with compliance. 

compliance, in this discussion, is about following directive and lawful orders given by law enforcement.  whether you're red, white, blue, black, brown, green, purple, orange, and sometimes,  yellow - (asians tends to follow direction quite well), failing to do so often results in being physically detained by whatever force necessary (excessive force and up to fatal force...depend ent on the circumstances). 



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Re: arrest comparison, shooter being arrested vs..
« Reply #9 on: August 06, 2019, 09:22:07 PM »
This incident had nothing to do with compliance. 

compliance, in this discussion, is about following directive and lawful orders given by law enforcement.  whether you're red, white, blue, black, brown, green, purple, orange, and sometimes,  yellow - (asians tends to follow direction quite well), failing to do so often results in being physically detained by whatever force necessary (excessive force and up to fatal force...depend ent on the circumstances).

The point is there are also cases where "white" people claimed they complied and excessive force was still exhibited by the officer(s).

Sure the percentage or "chances" vary among groups and/or demographics but to make an ignorant claim like, "Compliance works very well when you're white" is just not very accurate..

Does the police use of excessive force happens to Blacks more than other groups? Sure. But does it also happen to other groups too? You bet:

We use data on police-involved deaths to estimate how the risk of being killed by police use of force in the United States varies across social groups. We estimate the lifetime and age-specific risks of being killed by police by race and sex. We also provide estimates of the proportion of all deaths accounted for by police use of force. We find that African American men and women, American Indian/Alaska Native men and women, and Latino men face higher lifetime risk of being killed by police than do their white peers. We find that Latina women and Asian/Pacific Islander men and women face lower risk of being killed by police than do their white peers. Risk is highest for black men, who (at current levels of risk) face about a 1 in 1,000 chance of being killed by police over the life course. The average lifetime odds of being killed by police are about 1 in 2,000 for men and about 1 in 33,000 for women. Risk peaks between the ages of 20 y and 35 y for all groups. For young men of color, police use of force is among the leading causes of death.



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Re: arrest comparison, shooter being arrested vs..
« Reply #10 on: August 07, 2019, 07:52:00 AM »
The point is there are also cases where "white" people claimed they complied and excessive force was still exhibited by the officer(s).

Sure the percentage or "chances" vary among groups and/or demographics but to make an ignorant claim like, "Compliance works very well when you're white" is just not very accurate..

Does the police use of excessive force happens to Blacks more than other groups? Sure. But does it also happen to other groups too? You bet:

We use data on police-involved deaths to estimate how the risk of being killed by police use of force in the United States varies across social groups. We estimate the lifetime and age-specific risks of being killed by police by race and sex. We also provide estimates of the proportion of all deaths accounted for by police use of force. We find that African American men and women, American Indian/Alaska Native men and women, and Latino men face higher lifetime risk of being killed by police than do their white peers. We find that Latina women and Asian/Pacific Islander men and women face lower risk of being killed by police than do their white peers. Risk is highest for black men, who (at current levels of risk) face about a 1 in 1,000 chance of being killed by police over the life course. The average lifetime odds of being killed by police are about 1 in 2,000 for men and about 1 in 33,000 for women. Risk peaks between the ages of 20 y and 35 y for all groups. For young men of color, police use of force is among the leading causes of death.
to bring up a case (mohamed noor vs justine damond) that is totally irrelevant to prove your point, it's a severe sign of TDS.  bottomline, if you failed to do the "hokey-pokey" and follow directions as to what "simon says"...you might just get shot! ha!


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Re: arrest comparison, shooter being arrested vs..
« Reply #11 on: August 07, 2019, 05:02:09 PM »
to bring up a case (mohamed noor vs justine damond) that is totally irrelevant to prove your point, is sign a severe sign of TDS.  bottomline, if you failed to do the "hokey-pokey" and follow directions as to what "simon says"...you might just get shot! ha!

That's suppose to be true from the "TDS" (Trump Disciple Sucker) that proudly supports lies and fakes and even spit at his own parents' faces as "fake love"...

"bottomline," you continue to failed like the "TDS" that you are... ;D ;D ;D



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