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Re: Adam and Eve?
« Reply #45 on: February 10, 2020, 03:25:40 PM »
You missing the point. 

What I'm trying to illustrate is that neither a pisser or a belly button is being told in the bible.  Your interpretation is just as good as anybody else.  While you still wondering if adam has a belly button or not, it is still irrelevant to the whole creation story. 

If the bible don't say, you can't just fill in the blank blindly.  What other scripture says about him not having a belly button?  Good luck with that.

Then we are not in the same page. I was arguing that there IS no belly button or whatsoever. I take my chances on that.



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« Reply #46 on: February 15, 2020, 12:40:25 AM »
That's after, not before. I was talking about BEFORE! I think we are not in the same page.

That's becuz your logic doesn't make sense even I tried to comprehend.




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« Reply #47 on: February 15, 2020, 04:48:36 PM »
That's becuz your logic doesn't make sense even I tried to comprehend.



I don't think we are on the same page. You bring up pee pee, but we are made with it. Belly button, you enforce it that it's real on Adam to which it doesn't. The probability of having one is ZERO! You can gamble for this, but my statement has a better probability to point out that it's going to be more truer than having one.

Adam and Eve don't have a belly button. They were not born; they were made. We were born from them, which explains WHY we have them. If you debate this with a scholar, they will agree with me a lot more because my logic is pretty plain simple to understand that the chances of a belly button on these two great-grandparents don't have one. Eve has boobs and a vagina to procreate as we are the seeds to plant her. God did say, "Let humanity be fruitful." Did He not?



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« Reply #48 on: March 18, 2020, 03:50:13 PM »
I don't think we are on the same page. You bring up pee pee, but we are made with it. Belly button, you enforce it that it's real on Adam to which it doesn't. The probability of having one is ZERO! You can gamble for this, but my statement has a better probability to point out that it's going to be more truer than having one.

Adam and Eve don't have a belly button. They were not born; they were made. We were born from them, which explains WHY we have them. If you debate this with a scholar, they will agree with me a lot more because my logic is pretty plain simple to understand that the chances of a belly button on these two great-grandparents don't have one. Eve has boobs and a vagina to procreate as we are the seeds to plant her. God did say, "Let humanity be fruitful." Did He not?

Let me remind you that phrase, "let humanity be fruitful", literally means be serving others gracefully.  ;D ;D

Did your yolkism ever mentioned the passage about "multiplying as duplicating" from Eve? I'm sure your NIV book do have it but your mind interpret something else entirely.  :-\



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« Reply #49 on: March 22, 2020, 03:17:58 PM »
Let me remind you that phrase, "let humanity be fruitful", literally means be serving others gracefully.  ;D ;D

Did your yolkism ever mentioned the passage about "multiplying as duplicating" from Eve? I'm sure your NIV book do have it but your mind interpret something else entirely.  :-\

The definition of Yolkism: "Discriminating the monster inside you."

Example: I'm a rapist and I make rapist jokes; I'm a murderer and I make murder jokes. Only those people will get his joke as much as the crazies will understand Joker's jokes through of what he did. Imagine you discriminate mafias as you don't care of what race they are because as long they are categorize as mafias. Welp...good luck because you're going to get your teeth knockout by those devils since nobody told you to go fawwwk around with devils. Fawking around with devils is no different than discriminating people in orange coats in prison because they are prisoners in general. Yolkism is the REAL you! The only person who can discriminate your very bad nature is your parents. They can say shiet about your yolk.

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Anyway, what does Yolkism has to do with Adam and Eve about their belly button? Yolkism is a discrimination to wretched, fawked up, cruel, evil people due to their behavior to which calling them out is no different than you go and bully the devils. Bullying Satan, I think best not to bully that one. As much you hate him, it's a bad idea to do Yolkism on the devil. It's best you shouldn't unless you got an army of judges and cops on your side.



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« Reply #50 on: April 02, 2020, 09:20:57 AM »
I don't think we are on the same page. You bring up pee pee, but we are made with it. Belly button, you enforce it that it's real on Adam to which it doesn't. The probability of having one is ZERO! You can gamble for this, but my statement has a better probability to point out that it's going to be more truer than having one.
What's your probability in which you based of from? Based off of Adam and Eve, then the probability of them having belly button high. The probability that the offspring having the same body parts as the parents are high.

Adam and Eve don't have a belly button. They were not born; they were made. We were born from them, which explains WHY we have them. If you debate this with a scholar, they will agree with me a lot more because my logic is pretty plain simple to understand that the chances of a belly button on these two great-grandparents don't have one. Eve has boobs and a vagina to procreate as we are the seeds to plant her.
Being made instead of being born has no bearing on having or not having a belly button. And that's flaw in your logic.

God did say, "Let humanity be fruitful." Did He not?

And that answers the question. "Let humanity be fruitful," so in other words, "Let humans produce more humans." Humans have bellybuttons, unless if they're born with a deformity. Adam and Eve are humans, therefore must also have it in order for them to be called humans, unless if they were deformed, otherwise the first human would be Cain and not Adam and Eve. So there you have it, even your god agrees that they had a bellybutton. So unless you believe that Adam and Eve were made with imperfections, there's no logical reason for them not to have a bellybutton.



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« Reply #51 on: April 02, 2020, 06:26:27 PM »
What's your probability in which you based of from? Based off of Adam and Eve, then the probability of them having belly button high. The probability that the offspring having the same body parts as the parents are high.

Were they made in a test tube or were they made out of mud? God has never put anybody in a tube that wired them. A belly button, like I said before, requires birth. Adam was not born; Adam was made; therefore, Adam had never gotten a belly button. Made things don't have a belly button.



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« Reply #52 on: April 02, 2020, 06:29:06 PM »
Being made instead of being born has no bearing on having or not having a belly button. And that's flaw in your logic.

Describe to me how a baby is born? Do they have a belly button? Why yes! What about Adam? Was he born? It's self-evident of the probability for Adam to have a belly button is zero chances. Adam wasn't born; Adam was made. Where in the bible verse that said literally Adam was born? Because I can prove to you in literal words from the verse that he was made by God.



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« Reply #53 on: April 02, 2020, 06:35:45 PM »
And that answers the question. "Let humanity be fruitful," so in other words, "Let humans produce more humans." Humans have bellybuttons, unless if they're born with a deformity. Adam and Eve are humans, therefore must also have it in order for them to be called humans, unless if they were deformed, otherwise the first human would be Cain and not Adam and Eve. So there you have it, even your god agrees that they had a bellybutton. So unless you believe that Adam and Eve were made with imperfections, there's no logical reason for them not to have a bellybutton.

Where on EARTH did deformity came into play? Now your adding pseudoscience with this, which is not bible correlated. Adam was made, not born. Cain and Abel had a belly button; however, their parents did not! You're playing with your words without any logical chances of evidence to point out that they have a belly button. My chances are much higher for someone who is not born but made. You're confusing the difference between born vs. made. Made things don't have a belly button. It's useless and provide nothing for Adam and Eve alone. For their children, may be because it requires food, blood, and fuel of air for them to breathe. Adam is a perfect man and a perfect man does not need a belly button. Again, I don't see how your logic is standing because it doesn't make any sense. Made things don't need a belly button--PERIOD!



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Re: Adam and Eve?
« Reply #54 on: April 03, 2020, 11:24:37 AM »
Were they made in a test tube or were they made out of mud? God has never put anybody in a tube that wired them. A belly button, like I said before, requires birth. Adam was not born; Adam was made; therefore, Adam had never gotten a belly button. Made things don't have a belly button.

An assertion without evidence to support the claim is nothing but a bald assertion.

So what you are saying is that your god cannot create two humans with belly button? This where your reasoning is flawed. Birth into this world is required for a human to exist. And yet, you claim that Adam and Eve wasn't born, they were made. So if they were made with having two arms, two legs, and each with different sex organs, then it is also possible for them to be made with a bellybutton.



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Re: Adam and Eve?
« Reply #55 on: April 03, 2020, 11:32:02 AM »
Describe to me how a baby is born? Do they have a belly button? Why yes! What about Adam? Was he born? It's self-evident of the probability for Adam to have a belly button is zero chances. Adam wasn't born; Adam was made. Where in the bible verse that said literally Adam was born? Because I can prove to you in literal words from the verse that he was made by God.

Describe to me how Adam and Eve was created without having a belly button. If your argument can be use to argue against your own argument, then it fails to be a valid and sound logical argument.

Show me the verse where it says "god created Adam without a bellybutton." There is no such verse, therefore the probability is very low, next to zero. The probability for having a belly button is high because us humans without birth defects have it. We also have two arms and two legs.



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« Reply #56 on: April 03, 2020, 09:10:02 PM »
Where on EARTH did deformity came into play? Now your adding pseudoscience with this, which is not bible correlated.
Because it shows that all normal and healty humans have a bellybutton, the rare occasion when it is absent, is in a baby being born with deformity. And it is your claim that bellybutton must come from being born. And I showed you that you are wrong.

Since you brought up pseudoscience, let's compare and see who is the one that's actually doing pseudoscience. First, the difference. Science consists of a hypothesis with evidence to support it by doing research and experiments. The objective of science is an attempt to demonstrate that what is being claim is true by providing evidence to support that claim.

Now as for pseudoscience, a hypothesis is presented, followed by information that are thrown out as being evidence, when it is not. Those so called "evidence" are actually opposing information about an entirely different hypothesis and/or idea that is usually in opposition to the one presented by the pseudoscientis t.

So, you made an argument with no scientific evidence to support it. You gave reason that they were created and not born because a bellybutton comes from being born. I made the counter argument that they had one because humans have it, except those born with deformities. I used evolution to support my argument, as being a human one inherit the genetic traits of their parents. I disputed your argument while providing evidence to support why it's true. You, on the other hand, are disputing some other idea while ignoring mine and have nothing to show why your initial argument is true. You are practicing pseudoscience by trying to debunk something then with no evidence at all, claim that your argument is true.


Adam was made, not born. Cain and Abel had a belly button; however, their parents did not! You're playing with your words without any logical chances of evidence to point out that they have a belly button. My chances are much higher for someone who is not born but made. You're confusing the difference between born vs. made. Made things don't have a belly button. It's useless and provide nothing for Adam and Eve alone. For their children, may be because it requires food, blood, and fuel of air for them to breathe.
Wrong again. Here you are doing the opposite of what you claim to be, which is,  a philosopher that knows how to think. If you would have read what I said, you would realize that your argument about being born does not help you at all. It's actually irrelevant to my point. This scenario is about Adam and Eve, that's why I was arguing that god created them with a bellybutton, therefore passing that down to their offsprings. I supported it with scientific evidence. This is why my other point is having something to compare with to conclude a probably rate. Which it shows why having a belly button has high probability and not having one is low if not zero.

Adam is a perfect man and a perfect man does not need a belly button. Again, I don't see how your logic is standing because it doesn't make any sense. Made things don't need a belly button--PERIOD!

I'm still waiting for your evidence to support that claim. But I also had in mind the idea that Adam was a perfect being. That's why I brought up the deformity. So god created Adam as the perfect man having a belly button and told him to be fruitful. And being fruitful means having offsprings, hence giving birth. Adam would not have been perfect if his offsprings were not also perfect. And being perfect, therefore does not require further adjustments.

But I know what you're thinking. After original sin and the fall of man, Adam and Eve and/or humans are no longer perfect. I had that in mind as well. They are no longer perfect, that's why one of the imperfections came in the form of birth deformities for the baby, not having a belly button.

And that's critical thinking and logical reasoning for you. Don't kick yourself too much for coming up an illogical argument, nobody is perfect. Open, listen, learn and move on.  Just stay away from pseudoscience, it's one of the reasons  as to why someone have illogical reasoning.



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« Reply #57 on: April 04, 2020, 01:16:00 PM »
Describe to me how Adam and Eve was created without having a belly button. If your argument can be use to argue against your own argument, then it fails to be a valid and sound logical argument.


I asked you for the word born in the verses. Where is born?



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« Reply #58 on: April 04, 2020, 01:20:44 PM »
An assertion without evidence to support the claim is nothing but a bald assertion.

So what you are saying is that your god cannot create two humans with belly button? This where your reasoning is flawed. Birth into this world is required for a human to exist. And yet, you claim that Adam and Eve wasn't born, they were made. So if they were made with having two arms, two legs, and each with different sex organs, then it is also possible for them to be made with a bellybutton.

I couldn't make it; I said that He doesn't want to. It's useless. A belly button would require born. For Adam, it's useless. He can tend not to choose like how He chooses to ignore certain people's prayer because they are assssholes.



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« Reply #59 on: April 04, 2020, 01:23:38 PM »
Because it shows that all normal and healty humans have a bellybutton, the rare occasion when it is absent, is in a baby being born with deformity. And it is your claim that bellybutton must come from being born. And I showed you that you are wrong.

Do you have a belly button? If you do, then you are born, not made. Period! Every babies have a belly button. The percentage is high.



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