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You are right.  I'm a paper trader.  But if you want to know whether I am or am not, it'll cost you.

naw i don't need to know
the way you describe stuff
how you are able to perfectly time the TOP and BOTTOM   O0 O0
after the result

i already know you are NEW
paper trading

you should really read some of the other thread i wrote



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You shouldnít be gambling man
Just go there for the casino buffet

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w1s3m0n, you should start a journal or thread about investments.  Iíve read your posts and they are/can be informative to someone who is interested in or already are investing.  O0



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w1s3m0n, you should start a journal or thread about investments.  Iíve read your posts and they are/can be informative to someone who is interested in or already are investing.  O0

Naw
He just gambling
If heís being honest, and show us his chart
He down big time this week
Thats why he refused to show any pic
When we are all up

$opgn $twlo $goos

Are just some losing play off the top of my head

I bet against him in all those
And won



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Just do the opposite of WISEMON
And u will win for sure

I found this tactic to work better
Ive been right in all my bet against him



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hmgROCK, you do understand the concept of investing, donít you?  Youíre going to win some and lose some, thatís a given......unl ess youíre really lucky and are at the right place/time to invest in something when the business first starts and will mainly increase over time.

For myself, I prefer to play it safe so my rate of return is very low.....and it just sits there for a very long time.   ;D


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hmgROCK, you do understand the concept of investing, donít you?  Youíre going to win some and lose some, thatís a given......unl ess youíre really lucky and are at the right place/time to invest in something when the business first starts and will mainly increase over time.

trouble

what he is doing is just pure gambling
should probably seek some gambling addiction help
he's no where to be found today


because his $GOOS call option went south

aka..... he going lose all his money... whatever much he play
ALL OF IT.... if the stock don't get back up above the strike price

ask him to post a PIC.... dude starts getting hostile at me

if he bet $5k..... you can kiss that good bye



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For myself, I prefer to play it safe so my rate of return is very low.....and it just sits there for a very long time.   ;D

the energy sector is low  (buy low, sell high)
buy some ENERGY ETF:  $VDE, $XLE,

and hold till for 4-6 months  $VDE  get out at $80
                                             $XLE   get out at $60

YOU CAN THANK ME at the end of the summer

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if i'm wrong, you can come bash me at the end of the summer



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Just for the record.  I got in OPGN and made 1.2k on a day trade.  It was 10 ticks I traded.  If you cannot be honest just shut up dude.

I did a TSLA option play and I ducked up...It should have been expiration for 2/7 versus 2/28.  Had I done the 2/7 the return would have been 20x...Imagine putting 2k into an option that has almost no chance of succeeding and getting 80k back.  Instead my option only paid me 30%, and since I exited within the 1st 5 minutes of open trading I didn't get the 100% return.  Later that day I thought about parabolic options playing and I looked for some extremely contrarian play.  I decided on TWLO and GOOS.  I knew TWLO was on the 52wk high and everyone was betting it down.  As a contrarian, you do the opposite, and so I did the opposite and I went against the trend.  I could have played it safe and kept the equity because I was up 5% on the equity.  Next came GOOS.  The China and HK protest slammed the stocked down.  If there is no lower guidance the stock would soar to $40.  However, being unlucky, the CEO said there will be headwind from coronavirus and HK protest.

If you are an aggressive trader and who want to make massive returns you have to GO AGAINST THE GRAIN and be a CONTRARIAN.  You'll get CRUSHED, but when you win, you win BIG.  The strategy I used is called SPREAD BETTING.  The probability for TWLO and GOOS were both low alpha with 100% beta.  I'm reflecting if I should play these low alpha nad 100% beta risk options and how can I better assess which low alpha and 100% beta option I should get in order to maximize return.  Through my thinking, I've come to an understanding that instead of playing through the ER, I should buy 2-3 days before ER and sell the option based upon support/resistance.

I should have been backtesting but sometimes you YOLO.  Suffering makes you learn faster.



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w1s3m0n, you should start a journal or thread about investments.  Iíve read your posts and they are/can be informative to someone who is interested in or already are investing.  O0

Agree but HOLY SHINTO!!!

As you just made the other guy that doesn't really know about "investments" but continues to display his lack of knowledge even after getting called out publicly by other PH members poop in his pants big time.. ;D ;D ;D



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hmgROCK, you do understand the concept of investing, donít you? ;D

Good luck with that..even with visual aide, NOT possible for him to "understand".. ;D ;D ;D



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trouble

ask him to post a PIC.... dude starts getting hostile at me

That's not what happened so STOP "lying" as you'll just continue to dig your "lying" hole even deeper and make yourself look even worst by "lying"...

Here's what happened, he challenged you directly and you back pedaled and tucked your tail between your legs:

$100 to my PayPal and I'll show you the real statement.  January 2020.  DM me if you wish to proceed.



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HR,
You are right, I did lose two, but I hit my TSLA option.  Had I held it to the end of the day, it would have been worth $2600, but I sold early and only got $1k.  I also scalped TSLA the following day for $500.  Prior to that I had 1k+ trading OPGN.  That's 2.5k in profit.  I lost $1.2k on options.  Then today I also made another trade that I lost another 1.6k...So all in all, a week's work turned out to be -$300.  Most people look at this and say, you spent 40 hours trading, 10 hours studying the market, and you made -$300...go get a job at McDonald's.  But when you operate a P/L enterprise, you don't win every account.  Sometimes you lose.  What you care about is what's your average return.  YTD I'm still up.

Everyone has their method.  What we should do is learn from their mistakes.  What we shouldn't do is trash talk and be a crab because the entire mission of PH was to connect Hmong people and help us all grow in knowledge.  You yourself said you want to help PH members learn in the white man's game.  I do too.  But why do you need to feel so territorial?  Did I offend your knowledge?  Did I make you feel small?  Perhaps...

We can have different opinions and be civilized about it.


trouble

what he is doing is just pure gambling
should probably seek some gambling addiction help
he's no where to be found today


because his $GOOS call option went south

aka..... he going lose all his money... whatever much he play
ALL OF IT.... if the stock don't get back up above the strike price

ask him to post a PIC.... dude starts getting hostile at me

if he bet $5k..... you can kiss that good bye



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w1s3m0n, you should start a journal or thread about investments.  Iíve read your posts and they are/can be informative to someone who is interested in or already are investing.  O0

Thank you for the recommendation .  I'll probably do that.



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Guys it's just money.  You're still young, you can go out and make more.
Spend it however you want, or invest it in whatever method you want. 

One of my nephew was playing TSLA options that one crazy day, he was up $100k and didn't sell.
Next day it dropped so hard, not sure how much he got out of that.  Point is ... you lose some, you win some.

End of the day, you live with it, learn and move on.

Some like the slow and steady tortoise way using index funds.  Some want to go the hare way and play aggressive.  There's no right or wrong way, it's just your way.

In any case, why not embrace both?  They both work for different people.  As well, many people like myself, do both.





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