Shaman

[Dolly]

Do you know any young shaman?  Young=30 and under.

How does one become a shaman?  Those who have an idea or know hmong kev coj dab coj qhua, please share some stories.  Thanks!

i don't know any in the U.S but my nephew in Laos is 21 and he is a Shaman.
My sister who is 32 was recently chosen by the spirits to be a Shaman. 





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http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2005386068979175875&q=Edgar+Cayce&total=130&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0

Saub
This is a History Channel documentary on Edgar Cayce, he is a famous psychic. The Hmong name for a psychic is pronounced 'sho' (saub), Hmong psychics have similar abilities.
http://www.history.com/


http://youtube.com/watch?v=0uyUCO3JFBE

http://youtube.com/watch?v=e3rtdkZNy1Q

Shaman
The above clips are from the documentary "The Split Horn: Life of a Hmong Shaman in America"
http://www.collectiveeye.org/index.php

[QueenK23]

One of my cousin is a shaman and she's in her late 20s. But she does it quite differently from others. She wears all white, more like a chinese outfit every time she does it, and when she does chant, she does it in chinese. The thing is, she doesn't know how to speak chinese. She told us that when started, she had a dream that this chinese guy wearing all white came into her dream and led her the way of becoming a shaman or should I say, shawoman lol. Anyways she woke up and asked her mom to make an outfit similar to the man in her dream.

[Reporter]

I wonder why we say txivneeb in Hmong and shaman in English. It's very male to me! That term.

[sxiong]

Sometimes I have some crazy dreams. Please can someone let me know what it means. I sometimes have a little man, kind of a troll chase mean around, but then I find strange things. I always find a sword and something metal that makes noises. I get very afraid, but when I have these, it seems like nothing can touch me. Sometimes I see a big dark horse, but always afraid of it. I see people that I have never seen before, but know them by name.

One dream, I went to the door of my old house. I'm in the inside and wanted to close the door because it was raining real hard. Then a dog comes running in and into one of the bedrooms. So I followed it, chasing after it. All of a sudden he becomes a boy that i have not seen before, but still wet from the rain. Jumping on the bed with my other kids. I hauled the kid to the door and said to him, I'm sorry, but you will have to go. He then looks at me and said, Dad. It's me, your son, don't you remember me? I said, I'm sorry, but I'm not your father, but inside of me, I felt this strong bond. I further said, I'm a bad father, which sometimes I am because of my temper. I don't know if you would want to be with me if you know how I am when I get mad. Then I started to cry and woke up in tears.

Another dream I just had a few days ago that has been bothering me. I was at a forest/garden. I saw some really nice plants that had some pretty white flowers on them. I decided to pick them to show how nice they were to my family. All of a sudden I ended up at my old church building and saw my uncle there. I showed it to him and he said I shouldn't have picked them. Told me to return it, but told me to say some strange stuff. Like "in hmong" I sorry I didn't know these belong to you kuaj zoua pa"flower". I have no clue who this is. But when I went to the forest I saw a lady dress in white that was there. But then I woke up scared and all.

The next night I dreamt something else, but inside my dream, towards the end. When I knew that this was a dream I saw my father and asked who this person with this name is, but he said not to talk about it. Which was weird.

Alot of weird thing happened to me when I was growing up. My brother died and I can no longer go to sleep. I sleep about 3-4 hrs a day. People say I have a small heart. Which I easily get scared. I had an episode at a furnel home where I couldn't move and everything locked up. So I no longer go there anymore. I can smell dead people there and hospitals as well.

Can someone help?

[sxiong]

Also sometimes, I dream of stuff that didn't happen yet, but it happens later on in real life and it's like how it happened in my dream. But the weirdest I think is when I go to some places I feel a chill and hear things and voices, warning me or just saying weird thing. And no one is around or no one can hear because they don't seem to react. So I don't want to look like a freak and ask about it. But I have a small heart that I get scared and just go to places where there's lots of people.

[sweet_luvin]

sxiong, no one can help you on PH.. I think you should tell your parents to find you help..

[sxiong]

For a while in my life, I went through the same thing as the new movie "Charlie st. Cloud ". When I saw the trailer, it made me cry, because I did the same thing when my younger passed away from a bus accident. He would come talk to me and everything every night. At first, I was scared. I had to sleep when people was around, and stayed up when people was sleeping. Until I started to see why he comes almost every time. When I got married, My wife felt something strange around her. And sometimes has bad dreams with him in there. It lasted 1 year.

[ceykid]

regrading to the question...

-Some pepo can be born with the shaman power, had a frend who was born with it but he say the shaman power was to powerful at the time he just a baby n it was making him sick so the power was past to his dad.
-some pepo are chosen later in life.
-& some are past down form father to son.

[TubHmong]

it does not matter who you are or what you become, if dabneeb comes to you, you then will become a home sick forever until you teev (doing it).  if you are not doing it, they would curse you and take you to a third world.....whic h is heaven.....to suit you...LOL...th at is after death! 

Shamanism happens in two ways, by learning as Kawvkoob uaneeb, and spiritual ua neeb by blessing from god (Sivyis)! i was to become on while i was very young in the age of 4 or 5 years old, but my dad made it goes away for good. since then i had never been home sick year after year. 

nowadays, i wish that my dad let me do it, and i can write a whole story as it is for all you to learn and know...

They usually don't go far and will return one day to the place they left.  Have you ever want to go see your old house when you're in town?  That's what they'll do.  Believe me they're not blind like Hmong think!

[unknownladiee]

it depends if your ancestor was one and pass it on to  you.. i was chosen out of my family, but i married a christian...

[Dolly]

My sister has a friend, she is 23 years old and she's a shaman. She lives in Fresno.

[Dolly]

Sometimes I have some crazy dreams. Please can someone let me know what it means. I sometimes have a little man, kind of a troll chase mean around, but then I find strange things. I always find a sword and something metal that makes noises. I get very afraid, but when I have these, it seems like nothing can touch me. Sometimes I see a big dark horse, but always afraid of it. I see people that I have never seen before, but know them by name.

One dream, I went to the door of my old house. I'm in the inside and wanted to close the door because it was raining real hard. Then a dog comes running in and into one of the bedrooms. So I followed it, chasing after it. All of a sudden he becomes a boy that i have not seen before, but still wet from the rain. Jumping on the bed with my other kids. I hauled the kid to the door and said to him, I'm sorry, but you will have to go. He then looks at me and said, Dad. It's me, your son, don't you remember me? I said, I'm sorry, but I'm not your father, but inside of me, I felt this strong bond. I further said, I'm a bad father, which sometimes I am because of my temper. I don't know if you would want to be with me if you know how I am when I get mad. Then I started to cry and woke up in tears.

Another dream I just had a few days ago that has been bothering me. I was at a forest/garden. I saw some really nice plants that had some pretty white flowers on them. I decided to pick them to show how nice they were to my family. All of a sudden I ended up at my old church building and saw my uncle there. I showed it to him and he said I shouldn't have picked them. Told me to return it, but told me to say some strange stuff. Like "in hmong" I sorry I didn't know these belong to you kuaj zoua pa"flower". I have no clue who this is. But when I went to the forest I saw a lady dress in white that was there. But then I woke up scared and all.

The next night I dreamt something else, but inside my dream, towards the end. When I knew that this was a dream I saw my father and asked who this person with this name is, but he said not to talk about it. Which was weird.

Alot of weird thing happened to me when I was growing up. My brother died and I can no longer go to sleep. I sleep about 3-4 hrs a day. People say I have a small heart. Which I easily get scared. I had an episode at a furnel home where I couldn't move and everything locked up. So I no longer go there anymore. I can smell dead people there and hospitals as well.

Can someone help?

With that kind of story, You need to see a shaman.

[Someone]

Sometimes I have some crazy dreams. Please can someone let me know what it means. I sometimes have a little man, kind of a troll chase mean around, but then I find strange things. I always find a sword and something metal that makes noises. I get very afraid, but when I have these, it seems like nothing can touch me. Sometimes I see a big dark horse, but always afraid of it. I see people that I have never seen before, but know them by name.

One dream, I went to the door of my old house. I'm in the inside and wanted to close the door because it was raining real hard. Then a dog comes running in and into one of the bedrooms. So I followed it, chasing after it. All of a sudden he becomes a boy that i have not seen before, but still wet from the rain. Jumping on the bed with my other kids. I hauled the kid to the door and said to him, I'm sorry, but you will have to go. He then looks at me and said, Dad. It's me, your son, don't you remember me? I said, I'm sorry, but I'm not your father, but inside of me, I felt this strong bond. I further said, I'm a bad father, which sometimes I am because of my temper. I don't know if you would want to be with me if you know how I am when I get mad. Then I started to cry and woke up in tears.

Another dream I just had a few days ago that has been bothering me. I was at a forest/garden. I saw some really nice plants that had some pretty white flowers on them. I decided to pick them to show how nice they were to my family. All of a sudden I ended up at my old church building and saw my uncle there. I showed it to him and he said I shouldn't have picked them. Told me to return it, but told me to say some strange stuff. Like "in hmong" I sorry I didn't know these belong to you kuaj zoua pa"flower". I have no clue who this is. But when I went to the forest I saw a lady dress in white that was there. But then I woke up scared and all.

The next night I dreamt something else, but inside my dream, towards the end. When I knew that this was a dream I saw my father and asked who this person with this name is, but he said not to talk about it. Which was weird.

Alot of weird thing happened to me when I was growing up. My brother died and I can no longer go to sleep. I sleep about 3-4 hrs a day. People say I have a small heart. Which I easily get scared. I had an episode at a furnel home where I couldn't move and everything locked up. So I no longer go there anymore. I can smell dead people there and hospitals as well.

Can someone help?

You are a chosen one. Seek a shaman and you may go into a trance and began chanting. I don't want to speak too much (been told not to talk about the incident so this is a little fyi) but some weeks ago I had a cousin who went ballistic/shaking after a visit to the funeral place. To make the story short, she's now on her way to becoming a shaman. First shaman who came to her did not work/help her much. Second one was able to stop her "shock" and has helped her travel to the other world. 

[phabej]

The youngest shaman I have ever seem was a 15 year old kid from madison...

[HPA]

With that kind of story, You need to see a shaman.

Hmmm.  Interesting. 

I wonder if shamans can cure leukemia, or even a bad case of gout?