Shaman

[honeexiong]

Yes, go to church. get baptizes..Real ly..

i don't think this works because my aunt she converted herself to a christian, but it was a mere tempoary situation only. she got really sick, she almost died. now she's a shawoman and is well and healthy. when you're chosen by Siv Yis, you can't really avoid it.

[zoov]

I'm a young shaman. Cept being American as well I'm not sure if I entered the spiritual realm or not, I'm just doing what my master shaman taught me to do. And it's to chant this and that. And if I ever need to jump on my wooden bench that's because I've been sitting too long, and if I need to stand well the wooden bench got uncomfortable. Also with the red hood thing covering my face, it helps me meditate better. And although the drums and the metal rings don't provide the best meditational music I find myself in silence when I ignore all of that and focus on my task, of chanting.

so during a Shaman trance or when ua neeb will it be ok to consider it meditating?

[KUVSEB]

What is a Siv Yis?

Siv Yis....yog yawm saub tso los pab Hmong.  Siv Yis yog ib tug uas txawj neeb heev, txawm tias yuav muaj neeg mob dab tsi los nws yeej kho tau zoo tag nrho.  Siv Yis yog ib tus uas ua neeb leej, thiab yog thawj tus uas qhia Hmong txog kev ua neeb.  Kuv tsis nco lawm tias uas li cas nws hos rov mus saum ntuj lawm.  Tab si thaum Siv Yis rov mus saum ntuj lawm nws hais rau Hmong tias nws mam li rov qab los hnub 6, tab si lawv tos tos tsis pom nws rov los li...txij hnub no los nws tsis rov los.  Kuv tsis nco zoo lawm tias xyov yog Hmong ua dab tsi yuam kev los yog kev tsis zoo rau nws es nws thiaj li mus lawm.  Tab si ua ntej ntawm nws hais tias yog nws tsis rov los lawm no nws mam li xa dab neeb los pab Hmong.  Li ntawm muaj qees tus neeg thiaj li txawj ua neeb, tus neeg ntawm nws yeej mob ua ntej nws mam li ua neeb.  Cov ua zoo li no nws thiaj li yog txawj neeb tiag thiab ua neeb leej.  Yog tias koj yog ib tus uas Siv Yis xaiv lawm ces koj yeej kawg yuav tau ua neeb xwb, tsis li ces koj yuav mob tas li.  Txawm tias koj yuav mus ntseeg vaj tswv lawm los koj yeej yuav mob, ua ntej ntawm tej zaum koj yuav zoo me ntsi thaum koj mus ntseeg tab si ntev mus ces rov mob dua, thiab tsis tas li ntawm yuav muaj tej yam tswv sim rau koj los yog tsev neeg.

[KOOKIEVUESTARRheev]

Well usually when a young one is still young, obviously they are known the be sick and so on. Usually when you're a bit older they tell you of your fate, because when becoming a shaman, you have to accept it or face death. when they are ready they get really sick, and have to get their "powers" ready. But theres also just not the shaman, my cousin is a "sho" LOL dont know how to spell, um those people like 'buddah,monk ect. They are very helpful too, sometmes even more powerful than a shaman, they can tell future, and so forth. but its a very hard situation because og's sometimes expect too much.

[KOOKIEVUESTARRheev]

Sho? Explain more? Like a fortune teller?

yup, but they do extreme things, when you're really in need and help of things. my cousin is quite young though, but my grandparents keep forcing him to use his "powers" but he knows its not time yet, because his people tell him when he's older, but right now the things that he does uses alot of energy and so forth, but it was for the sake of our grandpa, but it sucks, because is hard at a young age.

[KOOKIEVUESTARRheev]

Extreme things such as? How old is he?

um 18, but so far he's gone into the other world, found my grandpa, but was force to find help, he's seen "death" because he lives with my grandparents and one of those creatures are locked up in the house, he has his own "bear" for hte other world, i think its his protection, but he has done so much, its overwhelming i'd say. but my grandpa has past away recently but we all know the reason, b ut its fine because he left happy.

[KOOKIEVUESTARRheev]

Your cousin is definately gifted and i hope he continues on this path (whatever that may be). My condolences goes out to you.

thank you, but he sure is gifted many people love him, he's a good kid, brought up with bad influences though lol >.>

[zoov]

Don't take my word for it, I was kidding with what I said. That's why my explanation was so generic.

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[zoov]

That's usually how the story goes. 

youre an energyhealer? cool do you learn it from the Chinese?

[KOOKIEVUESTARRheev]

That's usually how the story goes. 

LOl always is. >.>

[BassMaster]

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[A_New_Beginning]

yup, but they do extreme things, when you're really in need and help of things. my cousin is quite young though, but my grandparents keep forcing him to use his "powers" but he knows its not time yet, because his people tell him when he's older, but right now the things that he does uses alot of energy and so forth, but it was for the sake of our grandpa, but it sucks, because is hard at a young age.

Is he a shaman? If so, it appears like he was born with it. What color is the blanket he use to cover his face when he perform the ritual?  What kind of wooden seat does he use (rooj neeb)?  And who is his master (Xibfwb)?

[zoov]

he's a Saub shOO..Ouut dude not a txiv neeb anyways have you guys notice that Hmong language works similar to the music notes? there is the lowest to the highest tone which the meaning changes slightly according to the shift like this word 'Saub' seems to be a derivative term from the word 'saum' meaning top so Saub is referring to the guy up^ there so from lowest to highest tone would be 'saum', 'sau', and finally 'saub' you all see the slight changes in definition with its tone? i thought its really unique heh heh off topic .

[BeautifulBao]

since you can see the future, what's in store for 2008? and who will be elected for president?

So sorry.

 
Ah, the word you're looking for is "ib tus saub" but yeah "saub" is how we spell 'sho'

I can totally relate, on a serious note than what I said before kuv yog ib tus saub.

It's kinda like physicians except we're like spiritual healers. You've got the brain surgeon, eye surgeon, dentist, and so on as doctors, same goes as the saub or spiritual healers, they have different specialties as well.

I know a few, some can read people mind's, others can read their palms, and then there are those who can read or feel people's auras. I don't understand why we know different things yet, so I can't say, but what I do know is that we can do different things. For example the more I know the more I see, if that makes any sense, I can see the future.
 

Like I predicted WW3 in 2008, just wait and see, you don't have to wait long. =P (It's around the elections, like in December to be exact)

I also sent a telepathic message to President Bush in 2001, it was word for word "You must stop Bin Laden and Saddam Hussein." I'm not joking by the way, he got the message and he wasn't afraid to share it: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/10/13/AR2005101301688.html

Of course after his advisors told him he should't say stuff like that in public he no longer commented, but that's all over the news if you haven't heard.

Anyway I also predicted that North Korea would fire ICBMs and test a nuclear weapon. I already warned the US about WW3 though, it's up to them if they want to take it seriously or not. This world is overpopulated, I don't mind WW3 at all. Just because one is a saub doesn't mean they are divine, it simply means they have abilities, they can do what they will with such abilities afterall they are human. I'm not mean am I? Just being open about my masterplan and why I do the things I do.

Questions?
 

[Koua]

he's a Saub shOO..Ouut dude not a txiv neeb anyways have you guys notice that Hmong language works similar to the music notes? there is the lowest to the highest tone which the meaning changes slightly according to the shift like this word 'Saub' seems to be a derivative term from the word 'saum' meaning top so Saub is referring to the guy up^ there so from lowest to highest tone would be 'saum', 'sau', and finally 'saub' you all see the slight changes in definition with its tone? i thought its really unique heh heh off topic .

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Interesting, didn't think about that til now.

neeb = Shaman
neej = Lifetime
neeg = Person

Hmm, they're related.

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Dang this is interesting, more research should be conducted.