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The sad truth for PFOF
« on: February 11, 2022, 10:56:20 AM »
Payment for Order Flow (PFOF)


Robinhood, Webull
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Routing our buy orders to an off exchange market (dark pool) with no impact on price in the direct market — like the  nasdaq or nyse exchange. So when we buy thur free-commisision apps our buys are not hitting the market. Its goes into dark pool until those shares are filled by Market makers (MM). No one really knows how long these orders are delay. But it comes down to price manipulation.




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Re: The sad truth for PFOF
« Reply #1 on: February 11, 2022, 11:01:09 AM »
Payment for Order Flow (PFOF)


Robinhood, Webull
(Free-commission brokers)

Routing our buy orders to an off exchange market (dark pool) with no impact on price in the direct market — like the  nasdaq or nyse exchange. So when we buy thur free-commisision apps our buys are not hitting the market. Its goes into dark pool until those shares are price match by Market makers (MM). No one really knows how long these orders are delay. But it comes down to price manipulation.




https://youtu.be/xxyvPFGLLkY





it doesn't matter
we still getting the underline stock for $45, $50
whatever you buy them for

this is like you putting your money in the bank
and you wondering what they do with your money in the bank
at the end of the day.. you know you still have $50k in your bank


it's pointless




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Re: The sad truth for PFOF
« Reply #2 on: February 11, 2022, 11:06:29 AM »


it doesn't matter
we still getting the underline stock for $45, $50
whatever you buy them for

this is like you putting your money in the bank
and you wondering what they do with your money in the bank
at the end of the day.. you know you still have $50k in your bank


it's pointless


Somewhat…. you’re just not getting the best price execution. They can short it too if your buys are hold in dark pool.



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Re: The sad truth for PFOF
« Reply #3 on: February 11, 2022, 11:11:34 AM »

Somewhat…. you’re just not getting the best price execution. They can short it too if your buys are hold in dark pool.

i'm getting pretty good price... on robinhood
whatever the market is currently
i usually get that price 99% of the time

might be off a couple of cent every now and than
but shyt move so fast
so who knows





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Re: The sad truth for PFOF
« Reply #4 on: February 11, 2022, 11:11:56 AM »

Somewhat…. you’re just not getting the best price execution. They can short it too if your buys are hold in dark pool.

i'm getting pretty good price... on robinhood
whatever the market is currently
i usually get that price 99% of the time

might be off a couple of cent every now and than
but shyt move so fast
so who knows



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Re: The sad truth for PFOF
« Reply #5 on: February 11, 2022, 11:22:17 AM »
i'm getting pretty good price... on robinhood
whatever the market is currently
i usually get that price 99% of the time

might be off a couple of cent every now and than
but shyt move so fast
so who knows


Price can be controlled by Market makers. Price is not guna move up when you buy thur PFOF. Market Maker buy stock xyz .50 cheaper and sell it to you for more. They profit the .50 cent differences. Do this over and over they’re guaranteed to make money all the time.

Money Markets are the wholesalers they’re profiting off retailer investors. They want people to buy and sell often because the volume of shares going through hand exchange — theyre profiting all the time.


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Re: The sad truth for PFOF
« Reply #6 on: February 11, 2022, 11:29:35 AM »
This is how the $GME and $AMC apes were born.  :D :D :D :D



AMC ape here. Anyone in $GME or $AMC??



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Re: The sad truth for PFOF
« Reply #7 on: February 11, 2022, 11:38:51 AM »
You know PFOF is banned in S.Korea, UK, and Canada. We’re just one of the countries that allows it.



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Re: The sad truth for PFOF
« Reply #8 on: February 11, 2022, 11:42:19 AM »

Price can be controlled by Market makers. Price is not guna move up when you buy thur PFOF. Market Maker buy stock xyz .50 cheaper and sell it to you for more. They profit the .50 cent differences. Do this over and over they’re guaranteed to make money all the time.

Money Markets are the wholesalers they’re profiting off retailer investors. They want people to buy and sell often because the volume of shares going through hand exchange — theyre profiting all the time.

it doesn't matter what they do in the background
do you go research and ask question about the money you deposit at your local bank???

the brokerage will sell and short your stock all the times
you just don't know it
but you know that you have the share for $50 or whatever you buy it for






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Re: The sad truth for PFOF
« Reply #9 on: February 11, 2022, 11:44:23 AM »
This is how the $GME and $AMC apes were born.  :D :D :D :D



AMC ape here. Anyone in $GME or $AMC??

yup me
<<<<<< this guy... i bought in around $5-7
on an off

you can probably look at our past AMC talks in here



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Re: The sad truth for PFOF
« Reply #10 on: February 11, 2022, 12:07:26 PM »
Really.. AMC Ape. Ok we Cool bro!

Anyways the whole stuff about Market maker. Citadel is both a MM and a hedgefund. They have the upperhand to control the price or short it if they want. Too much leverage for Citadel or Virtu. Thats why the SEC wants to enforce new rules.



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Re: The sad truth for PFOF
« Reply #11 on: February 11, 2022, 12:11:44 PM »
Really.. AMC Ape. Ok we Cool bro!

Anyways the whole stuff about Market maker. Citadel is both a MM and a hedgefund. They have the upperhand to control the price or short it if they want. Too much leverage for Citadel or Virtu. Thats why the SEC wants to enforce new rules.


yeah bro...

i made a thread a while back
I GOT GANG UP  BY THESE FOOL IN HERE
they call me stupid and everything


i wrote a thread about $AMC when it was like $5-7 dollars
i bought and sell daytrade that stuff
it shot up big time
make lot of money

here is the old thread
i don't hold any AMC share today
https://www.pebhmong.com/forum/index.php/topic,405620.0.html



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Re: The sad truth for PFOF
« Reply #12 on: February 11, 2022, 12:17:02 PM »

yeah bro...

i made a thread a while back
I GOT GANG UP  BY THESE FOOL IN HERE
they call me stupid and everything


i wrote a thread about $AMC when it was like $5-7 dollars
i bought and sell daytrade that stuff
it shot up big time
make lot of money

here is the old thread
i don't hold any AMC share today
https://www.pebhmong.com/forum/index.php/topic,405620.0.html


Get on $bbig then. Almost the same AMC /GME ape rally are on this. This will be the short squeeze of 2022. Go look up DD on reddit in r/Bbig. Thank me later. Nothing really happening with $Bbig until management announces Tyde record date. Then Fomo will kick in.



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Re: The sad truth for PFOF
« Reply #13 on: February 11, 2022, 12:28:49 PM »

Get on $bbig then. Almost the same AMC /GME ape rally are on this. This will be the short squeeze of 2022. Go look up DD on reddit in r/Bbig. Thank me later. Nothing really happening with $Bbig until management announces Tyde record date. Then Fomo will kick in.


not this one
i don't do penny stock

i'm only buying dip on good company that oversold


$FB .. you should really look at facebook
bro...
it will be a good 6 month swing






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Re: The sad truth for PFOF
« Reply #14 on: February 11, 2022, 12:51:21 PM »

not this one
i don't do penny stock

i'm only buying dip on good company that oversold


$FB .. you should really look at facebook
bro...
it will be a good 6 month swing


FB will still do good when they roll out the metaverse. A. set back because they lost users. People are jumping to the next shinning object which is Tik tok or Snapchat. And I think FB had a lot of repercussions because they start to do a lot of censoring.


Censoring parties like anti-vaxers and such.


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