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Sheng and Oakland still have a chance  ???:

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Athletics Las Vegas stadium bill significantly opposed by public

As the Athletics take steps toward relocating from Oakland to Las Vegas, the public is offering its two cents about the proposed stadium.

The public won’t actually vote on Nevada Senate Bill 509 -- the A’s official pitch for up to $380 million in public funding for the ballpark -- but citizens still are making sure their voices are heard.

As of Tuesday morning, SB509 has received 2,370 public opinion positions of which 78 percent oppose the bill and 20 percent support it. The “neutral” option has received zero selections so far.

To be clear, anyone can submit their position on the bill, not just Nevada residents. So A’s fans from California and beyond also can weigh in.

Lawmakers, too, didn’t hold back during a six-plus-hour SB509 hearing that took place Monday by a joint committee of Senate and Assembly members.

"So, I’m just going it put it out there: I’m a no. Almost a hell no, so y’all have to get me to a yes, OK?" Assemblywoman Daniele Monroe-Moreno told A’s representative s (h/t The Nevada Independent).

"The Golden Knights didn’t cost taxpayers a dime," Monroe-Moreno said. "They came here, and they came at a time when we were hurting as a state, and they became Nevada's team, Vegas' team. This is different. It’s kind of apples and oranges in that comparison."

Las Vegas assemblywoman Michelle Gorelow didn’t specify how she would vote, but she did state that she received “a lot” of emails and social media pleas from the public asking her and her colleagues to vote no.

Reno assemblywoman Selena La Rue Hatch used the New York Yankees and Yankee Stadium as a reference to compare the direct public funding.



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What I like to know is this.  You can built it but will they come?  Where are they going to get them A's Fans? 

The faders already has an established fan based from their former days in LA and LA is not too far away from Vegas.  A's baseball can not walk in the same footprint as them faders. 

Although the location is prime for fans to do a double wammy when in town.  It is walking distance to the strip unlike the fader stadium that you will need to uber yourself across from that freeway. 

 



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That "$300 million relocation fee" that MLB wants is an advantage for Sheng and her crew for sure at the bargaining table  ???:

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Athletics' Las Vegas relocation fee conditional on public stadium financing

Jeremy Aguero, an A's consultant on the stadium project, explained to the joint committee of state legislators that in order for the team to avoid paying MLB an estimated $300 million relocation fee for moving from Oakland to Las Vegas, it would need an “acceptable” public-private partnership in place



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$30 million more on Sheng's side  ???:

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Athletics would owe Oakland $30M if they leave after 2024 MLB season

Per the Las Vegas Review-Journal, the team is contracted to pay Alameda County $15 million each year between 2024 to 2026. If the franchise were to depart the Bay Area before its proposed Las Vegas ballpark is finished -- estimated for 2028 -- they would owe the city of Oakland $30 million.




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I'm sure Sheng is happy to hear about this  ???:

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A's Las Vegas Strip Ballpark in Limbo After Huge Setback

Team's Vegas Strip Ballpark Plans in Limbo
The A's ran into a big wall on June 6 when the Nevada State Legislature failed to pass Senate Bill 509, which would have provided the $380 million in public funding for construction of the Tropicana Las Vegas Property, the Las Vegas Review-Journal reported.



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Vegas is built on tourist money.  You can not expect to fill them seats with tourists either. 

Where them A's fans at that will fill up your seats in Vegas? 



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karma has hit the Raiders and Athletics..now its our turn to act like we're too good for them...lols



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A's ownership has failed in three other Bay Area cities and are failing now in Sin City so bet Sheng Thao and her crew are smiling quietly  ??? ;D:

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Column: Athletics owners are failing on Las Vegas move. It’s time for Rob Manfred to act



It’s hard to tell whether the Oakland Athletics are a bigger farce on or off the field.

On the field, the A’s are on pace to lose 127 games. No major league team in the entirety of the 20th century lost so many games in a single season.

Off the field, the A’s soon could go 0 for 4 in potential host cities, striking out in the pursuit of a new ballpark in Oakland, Fremont, San Jose and maybe now in Las Vegas.

The question is not where A’s owner John Fisher and team president Dave Kaval might look next. The question is why Major League Baseball commissioner Rob Manfred would trust them to wrap up the Vegas deal, let alone let them look for another stadium deal, when Fisher and Kaval have proven they cannot get a deal done.

MLB wants the Vegas deal done.

For two decades, the A’s have pitched a new ballpark as a panacea. In 2009, long before Fisher and Kaval and Manfred were the faces attached to this saga, then-commissioner Bud Selig said this: “The A’s cannot and will not continue indefinitely in their current situation.” (Narrator: They can, and they have.)

Here is Manfred, his successor, in 2021: “The Oakland process is at an end.”

Here is Manfred, in July 2022: “It needs to happen now. It needs to be done.”

Here is Manfred, in December 2022: “We’re past any reasonable timeline for the situation in Oakland to be resolved.”

Maybe Oakland was the issue. Or, as it turns out, maybe not.

In April, Fisher and Kaval said they would make a deal in Las Vegas. The deal was supposed to have been done by Monday. Or Tuesday. Or Wednesday.

Or, at least, sometime before major league owners meet next Tuesday.

Now? They’re still working on it, a process marked by ineptitude so prolonged and so public that Oakland congresswoman Barbara Lee this week found time to write Manfred and threaten baseball’s antitrust exemption.

There is a small group of specialists who negotiate stadium deals from coast to coast. I talked to one who has worked on MLB deals for years. He is not involved in the Las Vegas deal, but he is astounded at how Fisher and Kaval have failed at the basic give and take that accompanies any negotiation.

Some legislators will vote yes, no matter what. Some will vote no. But, in a public hearing Wednesday, several legislators practically pleaded for Fisher and Kaval to give them something: help us get to a yes vote, a vote that we can defend to our constituents.

One legislator asked the A’s to consider a 9% ticket tax, the same tax assessed on tickets to concerts and shows in Las Vegas.

Another legislator asked the A’s to guarantee their community benefits promises by writing them into the stadium bill.

The stadium negotiator was flabbergasted that the A’s had dodged both requests. How, he wondered, do the A’s not at least offer to discuss a smaller ticket tax? That could be a way to a yes vote, since legislators could say they got the A’s to pay a tax the Raiders and Golden Knights do not pay. Perhaps the A’s even negotiate a mechanism to recoup that money in later years.

And, when a public hearing last week revealed citizen anguish that a baseball stadium might be a higher funding priority than public schools, it should have been a no-brainer for Fisher and Kaval to say this: “We want to be a part of the solution, not a part of the problem. If we are fortunate enough to become part of this community, the A’s will donate $1 million a year to public education in Las Vegas.”

Here is what the A’s would be getting in Las Vegas: $380 million in taxpayer money toward a new stadium, plus free land for the stadium donated by a private company, plus no property taxes because the A’s would donate the land to a public agency, plus no rent because the agency would waive it, plus revenue from naming rights. That’s a half-billion dollars worth of goodies right there.

The legislature went home for the weekend, tired of waiting for the A’s to give enough to get the votes.

If there is a deal to be made — and there is — Manfred should dispatch one of those stadium negotiation specialists to Vegas this weekend and let him do the talking. Fisher and Kaval have promised new ballparks at four locations in the past six years, and two in the past six weeks. Their track record speaks for itself.

If Fisher really draws the line at his $1.1 billion contribution to the stadium, so be it. However, his team’s lease in Oakland expires next year.

The A’s might still pull victory from the jaws of defeat in Las Vegas. Or they could find themselves homeless after the 2024 season, barnstorming like the Savannah Bananas.



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Hmmm...

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Bill to help finance a Las Vegas ballpark for Oakland A's passes Nevada Senate, heads to Assembly

CARSON CITY, Nev. -- A stadium financing bill aimed at drawing the Oakland Athletics to Las Vegas cleared a major hurdle Tuesday after being approved by the Nevada Senate, but not before lawmakers amended the measure to strengthen its benefits for the community.





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The fans can be a factor too  ???:

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A’s fans come out en masse for reverse boycott and tell owner John Fisher to sell

Furious Oakland Athletics fans came en masse with a single message to owner John Fisher: "SELL." "Sell the team!" they chanted thousands of times during the A's 2-1 victory against the Tampa Bay Rays that gave Oakland a season-best seven-game winning streak.





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Sheng and her crew as well as many Oakland A's fans can't be happy about this update:

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Oakland A’s $380M In Public Funding For Retractable Roof Stadium In Las Vegas Signed By Nevada Governor

UPDATE: Nevada Gov. Joe Lombardo has signed a Las Vegas stadium funding bill into law, marking yet another step forward for the Oakland A's to move to Las Vegas. Lombardo approved $380 million in public money to build a $1.5 billion, retractable roof baseball stadium for the Athletics.



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Looks like Sheng and her crew have 1 year to sort it out  ???:

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Report: A's to play in Oakland during 2024 MLB season

OAKLAND — Let there be no ambiguity: Even after this week's events in Nevada, the Oakland A's will still play the 2024 season at the Coliseum. But what happens after next year remains unknown. The A's will remain at the 55-year-old facility for at least another full season, a team spokesman confirmed Friday evening.



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Tom Hanks is in the mix now?  ???:

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Could Tom Hanks pull a Ryan Reynolds and help keep the A's in Oakland?

LOS ANGELES — First, a concise recap of the state of professional sports in Oakland, courtesy of East Bay native Tom Hanks:

"We've lost the Raiders."

"The Warriors moved to San Francisco."

"And now they're going to take the A's out of Oakland."

Then, a pause for dramatic effect followed by five words that sum up the feelings of all Oakland sports fans toward the owners responsible for the mass exodus:

"Damn them all to hell," said Hanks, who's shown he can be a little tough in movies. He did manage the Rockford Peaches in "A League of Their Own."

The line drew laughter from Hanks' audience, which likely didn't contain too many Oakland sports fans. While promoting his first book, "The Making of Another Major Motion Picture Masterpiece," at the Wilshire Ebell Theatre in Los Angeles last month, the actor answered questions from audience members read to him by event moderator John Horn.



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Wow, I read somewhere Oakland lost a pro hockey team a long time ago too.



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